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The Steelers punked the Jest. Payback for Derrelle Revis. Took them 16 years, but they did it.

I wanted the Bills to trade up to get JSN when he slid. After he went at 20 there were a lot of similarly rated players I was fine with. We got one of them.

I certainly see the fit. The offense needs someone besides Diggs that can uncover early. That will be especially useful in the red zone. So I’m guessing we will see a lot of 11 personnel when there’s a lot of field in front of us and a lot of 12 in the RZ. I only watched the ASU game so I haven’t seen a lot of film. I love his hands and route running. But I really hate his “blocking” and dislike that he’s an older prospect - he’ll be 24 in October. I’m not wild about the back injury either. Still, I really didn’t see a lot of better options out there at 25/27. I’d have much preferred a more aggressive trade up into the teens for JSN though.

So signing for a lot more money than he could have last year, becoming the highest paid NFL player ever (as of today) and doing it all without an agent or paying their commissions isn’t anything special or smart? You’re certainly welcome to that opinion. I think he did pretty damn well.

It was smart of Lamar to handle it the way he did: Pay me early and I want a fully guaranteed deal. If not, I’ll wait for more total money and guarantees. What’s wrong with that?

No. He was just holding his guarantee demands unrealistically high until the QB contracts and guarantees took another jump up. He let Hurst’s agent do the heavy lifting and then he piggybacked on it and added his bump.

Last year they didn’t agree to what Lamar just got.

Absolutely. He’s the highest paid player in the league by AAV, has the 2nd highest total dollar contract (only Mahomes’ 10 year deal totals more) and has the 2nd most guaranteed dollars. Yeah, seems like the Ravens caved. If your argument against that is that he didn’t get 100% guaranteed, then you should learn about how negotiations work.

The Ravens didn’t cave all the way to a fully guaranteed deal, but they caved. No one seems to think of the possibility that Lamar was just playing hardball. Negotiators generally ask for more than they expect to get.

Signing bonus cap hits can only be spread out over 5 seasons - and that is only if the contract has at least 5 seasons on it. Void years count toward that. Every dollar paid on Rodgers contract must hit the cap eventually. It can be spread out over the length of time he plays for the NYJ plus an additional year or two. One extra can be done by using a void year (or years) and two with a void year(s) plus cutting the player with a June 1st designation. That would have to be done the season after the last one played but before the contract voided.

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Someone can always outbid you if they want something bad enough. It happens.

Cleveland cut the producers a better deal on taxes and expenditures than Buffalo. They were going hard after the movie filming niche at the time.

silver lining! and they have no picks in the first two rounds for like the next three years so if their athletically limited, try-hard quarterback doesn’t pan out, they can’t draft another one for four years.

This is to hedge against his injuries. They can still tag him and/or sign him to a long term deal if he regains his form. They did that with Payne this year. 5th year option is $17M Transition is estimated at $16.7M and franchise at $20.9M in 2024. The new calculations for 5th year options are making teams think twice before picking them up. Edit: Changed tag #s. Had 2023, not 2024 amounts.

Let’s see: - He gave up a boatload of picks to trade for #1 overall not knowing who he was going to pick and not having finished his homework on the top rated QB in the draft. - Decided to take an off the ball linebacker with the 1st overall pick. - Talked another GM into a terrible trade to get back up high in the first round. - Then took a running back with that high first round pick. - And finally, everyone celebrated all of that. The only thing that made sense was that they had the Browns doing it all.

Yup. I think things might have been different if Edmunds played in year 4 like he did in year 5, but alas….

I think it would really hurt the league. There would be crazy money spent on some of the unproven players - especially QBs. Destinations like Miami, LA and NY would have an even bigger advantage recruiting young players. There’s really no point in making that change in isolation. With the NFL’s salary cap floor players are guaranteed a certain percentage of revenues. You’d just be shifting more of that money to rookies.

Kind of reminds me of the Jest and CJ Mosley. He tried to stay with the Ravens but the Jest offered him so much money that by the end even the Ravens basically said “We’d love to have you back, but do what you gotta do. We understand.”

Yes. That’s a concise way of putting it.

Or he listens to the Locked On Bills podcast. I believe the host, Joe Marino, executed this exact trade in the Locked On Network mock draft. It’s actually a pretty good trade idea. AZ can pretend they got a third round value (which it barely is on the JJ chart) for Hopkins and sell that to their fans. Meanwhile the Bills can draft a similarly rated player at 34 as they would’ve gotten at 27. It would make taking a LB a little easier to take.

It’s a faulty premise because you can’t trade a player after the trade deadline. Some teams agree to trades at the tail end of the league season, but those trades can’t be finalized and executed until after the new season officially begins. The players involved obviously have to be under contract for the new season, which Edmunds wasn’t.

I’ll do a reverse example of a player I thought would bust: Deshaun Watson. Didn’t think his game would translate to the NFL, but the NFL changed.

Teams trying to trade out of the end of the first round will be sorely disappointed in the offered returns. Most will choose to just make their pick.