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This is to hedge against his injuries. They can still tag him and/or sign him to a long term deal if he regains his form. They did that with Payne this year. 5th year option is $17M Transition is estimated at $16.7M and franchise at $20.9M in 2024. The new calculations for 5th year options are making teams think twice before picking them up. Edit: Changed tag #s. Had 2023, not 2024 amounts.

Let’s see: - He gave up a boatload of picks to trade for #1 overall not knowing who he was going to pick and not having finished his homework on the top rated QB in the draft. - Decided to take an off the ball linebacker with the 1st overall pick. - Talked another GM into a terrible trade to get back up high in the first round. - Then took a running back with that high first round pick. - And finally, everyone celebrated all of that. The only thing that made sense was that they had the Browns doing it all.

Yup. I think things might have been different if Edmunds played in year 4 like he did in year 5, but alas….

I think it would really hurt the league. There would be crazy money spent on some of the unproven players - especially QBs. Destinations like Miami, LA and NY would have an even bigger advantage recruiting young players. There’s really no point in making that change in isolation. With the NFL’s salary cap floor players are guaranteed a certain percentage of revenues. You’d just be shifting more of that money to rookies.

Kind of reminds me of the Jest and CJ Mosley. He tried to stay with the Ravens but the Jest offered him so much money that by the end even the Ravens basically said “We’d love to have you back, but do what you gotta do. We understand.”

Yes. That’s a concise way of putting it.

Or he listens to the Locked On Bills podcast. I believe the host, Joe Marino, executed this exact trade in the Locked On Network mock draft. It’s actually a pretty good trade idea. AZ can pretend they got a third round value (which it barely is on the JJ chart) for Hopkins and sell that to their fans. Meanwhile the Bills can draft a similarly rated player at 34 as they would’ve gotten at 27. It would make taking a LB a little easier to take.

It’s a faulty premise because you can’t trade a player after the trade deadline. Some teams agree to trades at the tail end of the league season, but those trades can’t be finalized and executed until after the new season officially begins. The players involved obviously have to be under contract for the new season, which Edmunds wasn’t.

I’ll do a reverse example of a player I thought would bust: Deshaun Watson. Didn’t think his game would translate to the NFL, but the NFL changed.

Teams trying to trade out of the end of the first round will be sorely disappointed in the offered returns. Most will choose to just make their pick.

I think that’s the reasoning. If a player can excel in college at a younger age, then they have a better chance at being a good pro than a player who doesn’t excel in college until they are among the oldest players competing.

I recently read an analysis of younger vs older draft picks. There did seem to be something to taking the younger prospects - even in the early seasons after being drafted. It wasn’t so much that their production was off the charts great so much as the older prospects did relatively poorly overall. Even the best GMs have a hit rate below 50%.

Nice work. Thank you for posting.

Probably sitting at home texting with friends and posting on football boards.

I watch nearly every tOSU game. The kid is massive and has talent, but I didn’t always love what I saw from him on the field. The potential for a very high ceiling is there, but I hate drafting early on potential. Drafting him on day 2 has a lot more appeal than on day 1.

No worries. I don't think Virgil has been around much today and hadn't updated pick 11 yet.

Thanks, but I traded the 11th pick in my trade up to 3 for Stroud. For those interested, the trade was pick #11, pick #72 and the Titans 2024 first round pick for pick #3. @NeverOutNick is on the clock for the Arizona Cardinals.

I sure hope so.

No big stories, but my kids took precedence on a number of occasions. I’d record games and watch them when I could. If I was pressed for time sometimes I’d peek at the score and see if the game was worth carving out time to watch. I found one great way to squeeze everything in on a Sunday was to record the game and spend time with my kids. Then between 2:30 and 3:00 I’d start the game from the beginning and FF through the commercials, half time and other dead time. I’d watch the whole game in under 90 min most often and end around the same time as the live broadcast. Then back to the family.

That’s the truth.

I used to be a launcher. Now in my middle ages I simply take it to a corral. There are self-serving reasons for returning carts though. One is that your choice could be observed by friends or acquaintances and that your choice will impact their opinion of your character. A second is that by returning the cart you are enforcing the social norm of doing so, thus decreasing the chances of the wind blowing a cart into the side of your new Porsche.

Move seen this trade idea floated before (Locked on Bills I think). It’s a good one. It allows AZ to save face (We moved up for a 1st round pick!). The reality is that while the JJ trade chart shows the Bills giving up the equivalent of a third, the quality of prospects available at 27 and 34 in this draft will be very similar.

Let’s see how that plays out. Rodgers has a huge contract and is likely a one year rental. At most he’s a two year rental for wherever he goes. And he’s coming off a down season (for him). GB can posture about waiting until the pay date on Rodger’s bonus, but I don’t see how they can take the risk of having him at mandatory OTAs next month. If he gets injured they could wind up having to pay the whole $59.5M he’s owed this season. I could see a 2nd round pick this year and a conditional pick next depending on Rodger’s/Jets’ performance - and whether Rodgers plays in 2024. So a 2024 first might be on the table if the right conditions get met. Also there could be a flip of 13 & 15, 13 for a second back or something like that, but I don’t see 13 straight up happening.

That makes sense. Here’s a LINK to an article about it. I actually thought it was a statement by his agent, but it’s a rumor that this is what he told his agent. So I’ll back off of my stance too. IF this is true, then GB has no leverage. If not, then they still have some.

Rodgers said he’ll play for the Jets or retire. What other team would trade for him under those circumstances? It’s over. He won the stand-off.