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I think that stuff is usually more for fans. Do I think the Bills want to win this one? Of course. Is there additional motivation because the Bengals are a top team and the Bills haven’t looked good against them recently? I sure hope so. But that’s it. Nothing to get “revenge” for and nothing else to make this game a bigger deal than the above.

They were broke in Oakland. They’re getting crazy rich in Vegas.

No whining here. I’m just not one to pretend something means more than it really does. But, hey, if you want to pretend that a win this weekend is adequate “revenge” for getting smacked down in the playoffs last season, then you do you.

LOL. Revenge for a playoff beat down is not possible in the middle of the regular season.

Mississippi. Keeping Alabama out of 50th place for decades now.

I like PFF and what they do, but their ratings for certain positions are terrible. CB rankings are as bad as you get because they only grade plays where the CB’s coverage responsibility is targeted by a pass (which is absurd IMO). I’m not ripping the move or player, just PFF’s CB ratings. For the record I’m glad we made at least one move. Douglas should be able to help. He’s a competent, experienced mid-tier starter at CB, which is among the things we needed. While we gave up a fairly valuable 3rd round draft pick, at least we got back GB’s 5th.

Guessing it is because they don’t want to pay a top OG market value. Cleveland is an FA after his rookie deal expires this season. Also Kwesi has been moving vets off of the roster to add picks to acquire a QB.

Likely this is what the Bears were trying to accomplish - to show JJ what his MV is. No 5/$100M Denzel Ward deal for him.

It is what you hope to see, but it doesn't always happen that way.

The Bills took a gamble with with Elam because they painted themselves into a corner with that one glaring need and KC jumped us for the guy we wanted - Trent McDuffie (at least I am convinced of that). While Elam was considered a 1st round prospect by some (a minority), many others had him rated lower or much lower. For every plus in his game there was a negative or question. Sticky in man, but very grabby. Physical with WRs, but a reluctant/soft tackler. Good length and a fast 40, but doesn't show that speed on the field and lacks lateral agility. Even the best GMs miss on 1st round picks, but I hated seeing us locked into that position going into the draft. That was an avoidable mistake.

I think the only thing this is about his agent trying to get him the best contract possible. Effectively “Give us what we want or trade the player to a team that will.” Nothing more, nothing less. If the Bears move on the extension, then it gets signed and everyone loves each other again. Just negotiating tactics.

This brings up an important point. There’s some real risk here as a trade and contract extension could be coming at a “buying high” point. This is probably why the Bears and his agent aren’t able to get a deal done. The agent wants paid on this season while the Bears are looking at the whole body of work. My best guess is that nothing happens with him today and a deal gets done with the Bears at some point.

That isn’t realistic in this case. If that is all that is offered then he won’t be traded. Instead the Bears will tag him if they can’t sign him to an extension before the deadline.

He’s on the last year of his rookie deal, not some 32 year old vet looking for a ring. Zero chance he is traded without a contract extension in place. *The first plus assumes a pick expected to be at the end of the first round. A team expected to draft early or mid-round would be a different story.

Like the Stefon Diggs trade. I’d be on board if the cap dollars can work and the contract isn’t in Denzel Ward territory 5/$100M. We will still have to account for Tre at $10.4M (though that could be spread over two seasons). If the contract is more in the $13M-$15M AAV range, then I am a lot more interested. They will have to restructure Allen as well as others regardless. The impact of a contract like this would be felt somewhere. Not everywhere, but somewhere. The more I look at the numbers the more I see how it is workable. But the Bills are at a point where they are making budget constrained decisions. CB is very good place to spend so I can see them choosing to do so.

It’s the extension that’s the issue. The MV Spotrac shows obviously does not account for his play this season. He’s gotten better every year and will get a deal in the top 10 CBs.

I agree in principle. A replacement for Tre is needed ASAP. He isn’t going to get back to the player he was and I don’t think we will see him in a Bills uniform again. The Bills might be able to work a trade - and let’s face it, even first round CBs don’t always work out (obviously). So it’s not about the draft capital so much as it is about the contract. I don’t know how the Bills manage to add a top of market CB contract at this point.

No team is going to trade for him without a new contract in place.

He will fetch a first plus, if traded at this point. Plus a very big contract. I don’t see the Bills doing that.

I have NFL+ so I can watch condensed games and Red Zone. The most games I watched in a week this season was 10. This week just 3 plus a Sunday with a lot of Red Zone.

If?

For the player, yes. But his contract only runs through this season so that drags down his value. It’s more than I’d have wanted Beane to give up. I think this signals that the Giants are going to be in the QB market. Seattle is leading their division and pushing some extra chips in.

I think you have to consider the possibility that TB was finally adjusting to the Bills offensive game plan and was defending it better.

Agreed. I’m a firm believer that analytics and statistics should inform decisions, not dictate them. Details and nuances often are not accounted for in them and I think we saw a good situational coaching job last night that considered those nuances.

I agree. Plus with Allen’s shoulder dinged up I don’t like running him so that would take another option off of the table.