BarleyNY

That's great that you and Promo support UB, but neither of you are refuting my points. And quite frankly, if UB playing in a small, generic venue that commands very low ticket prices keeps you away, then what would happen if they played in a brand new NFL stadium and their prices were as high as Bills tickets are now? (Bills ticket prices will undoubtedly increase in a new stadium.)

Judging by UB's stadium on game day you're the only one.

I was about to laugh off the thought of UB siphoning off interest from the Bills, but that's actually pretty spot on. For a shared stadium to even be considered, UB would need to beef up their program substantially. That means they might be more relevant in college than the Bills are in the NFL at some point down the road. That ends the discussion right there. No way would the Bills invite that possibility. I'll jump ahead now to the "there's plenty of room for both" argument. No, there's not. Not in Buffalo. Not currently. It doesn't have close to population, like Atlanta, where the sheer number of people makes it feasible. The culture isn't there to provide strong support for bother either. In other words, Buffalo isn't a "football town". Yes, Buffalo loves it's Bills, but it is a hockey town. Football isn't ingrained in the culture like it is in Ohio, Texas and Florida. Growing up in Cleveland, fall weekends were high school football on Fridays, Buckeyes on Saturdays and Browns on Sundays. Who here bothers with UB football, much less high school? They can't even get students to go with free tickets.

Think he was talking about the comments in linked article.

Winner!

How much room do we have on our IR roster?

Good memory!

I don't think any fans are worse than Philly fans. Some are more annoying at times, but not worse people. I remember this one story an Iggles fan posted about taking his non-Iggles fan wife to a game. They had been together for years, but he had always avoided it due to the behavior of fellow fans. He finally took her and the fan behavior was horrific, per usual. She was shocked and mortified that he would repeatedly, and for years, go somewhere where things were that messed up. He said she never looked at him the same way again and cited it as likely one of the reasons she left him. I wish I could find it. It was hilarious (divorce aside).

The technique is "sabrage" but it's also called "sabering champagne". Napoleon and his cavalry were known for doing it. Coincidentally, Madame Clicquot is often in stories about Napoleon's soldiers sabering champagne and I swear the bottle in the video is Veuve Clicquot.

Dunno. Maybe the third cop was in the restroom or off talking up some chick. Who knows? Nothing to indicate he even knew something happened. The two cops involved both got treatment so I don't know who drove whom where other that one drove himself to the hospital. Maybe the second rode with the first one? Or had his own car? Dunno. I doubt it matters unless his BAC got tested at the hospital. You don't want to have "driven yourself to the hospital" if you were over the limit. Could play into the case as well if it happened.

Not if you're on the ground getting stomped. How does someone make a 911 call during something like that? You'd hope someone would make the call, but I'm not sure how you would. And it's not like the other guys aren't going to scatter immediately. There were three cops, one of whom did not seem to be around the incident. One got stomped and one was trying to pull him out of the melee. Then they all got tossed. There's no time for a call up until then and even if one was made at that point, what good would it do? The other guys are gone.

Right. Okay, so the incident happened at 2:45AM Sunday and was a thread here late Monday morning. About 32 hours. In that time, the officers had to be treated, file a report about the incident with unknown people, those people had to be identified and it had to hit the news wire. Let's face it, we'd never know about this incident if McCoy - or another NFL player - hadn't been identified at some point. It doesn't seem like there was any delay. It just want newsworthy until McCoy was identified, which took less than 32 hours.

Didn't seem like there would be much time to call 911 while a guy was swinging a champagne bottle at you or you were getting chucked out of a club. This happened at 2:45 AM and was in the news that morning so it seems like the police report was filed pretty damn quick. As for identifying themselves as police, who knows? There will be testimony to that effect, but in a noisy club could anyone hear them anyway? should it matter? The club cameras are only there to protect the club. Whether or not they were "working" probably only depends on whether or not their footage would help or hinder a lawsuit against the club. Don't kid yourself, they aren't there for the public good.

The lack of evidence that the cops hit anyone would be the problem there. McCoy and his friends should have gone to the police department to show their injuries if they had any. It didn't seem like they did judging by what people who saw them later that evening have said. At least nothing obvious. The video footage only shows McCoy & Co. beating and stomping on a guy on the ground. All of the reported injuries - which are severe - are on the two cops, not the four on the other side. There also doesn't seem to be a dispute that this started over a bottle of champagne that was served to the cops, but forcibly taken by one of McCoy's friends. That doesn't look good. That looks like four guys started things with two off duty cops, beat the crap out of them and didn't stop after one of them was unable to defend himself.

There is so much wrong with this..... Wentz at 2 over Goff? Bills passing on Treadwell at 19 for Lee? Treadwell even on the board at 19? Wow.

So if McCoy and his boys knew this, then they must be the dumbest people alive because that means they would have known these guys were cops. Also clubs, bars and restaurants comp stuff to cops all the time without charging anyone. And if a server is going to shuffle charges then they're likely to be pocketing the money, not giving it back away. Somebody pays cash for a $200 bottle, bottle gets put on some big spender's $2k tab, $200 goes in server's pocket.

You noticed that too? Internet tough guys are so cool, though!

Incidentally, it is illegal to pay someone off in order to avoid criminal charges. It certainly happens regularly where there is a monied party involved in something like this, but it has to be done quietly. The fact that these guys are cops might be a problem there.

That is incredibly stupid - and misleading. Situations differ. Would I help my friend if four guys were stomping his head? Hell yes. Would I help my friend if he and two other guys were stomping somebody's head and hitting him with a champagne bottle? Hell no.

So.....concussed AND drunk. Got it.

Couples has 4 accrued seasons in the NFL and thus would not be subject to waivers. He will immediately become an unrestricted free agent and could sign anywhere. His old contract is meaningless.

Since the cash has already been paid the Bills would be on the hook for the remaining cap hit from his signing bonus, of which $10.5M is remaining. 75% of that could be deferred until 2017 with a June 1st designation. His $4.8M salary for 2016 becomes fully guaranteed on the first day of the league year, which is March 9th. The Bills could almost certainly get out of that though. They'd also have to draft or find and sign another starting RB. The real problem here might be timing. Who knows how long the legal process will take? Or if Goodell would suspend or otherwise discipline McCoy in the meantime. I would not be surprised if McCoy played part of, or even the whole, 2016 season while the case is pending. This could go a lot of different ways.

Well, that video is going to be a problem....... Just one, low-key offseason.......

I didn't realize that those we the only options for that money.

I'll say this, it's not like no one brought up character concerns regarding McCoy. Just like injury concerns with Kiko got brought up on the other side. The combination of trading away Kiko plus the contract they gave McCoy was too much in total for my liking. His character was part of that. So was his position. McCoy performed very well in the games he played and, while he said and did some stupid things, he kept out of any real trouble. So I admitted that the trade worked out better than I had thought. Recently I have been sticking up for him. Now this. Should have just stuck to my guns.