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Wait, those aren't TEA leaves!

Thanks, Hopeful RG3 just started with him since signing with the Browns. Hue Jackson is close with House and training with him enables RG3 to get extra work in with a guy who is teaching the same things the same way.

MMQB talks about QB guru Tom House, whom Tyrod Taylor has worked with. Also some Whaley discussion in Four Downs #2. http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/08/03/tom-house-quarterback-nfl-training-camp-notes

Crap. Sometimes those are worse, sometimes not. Hopefully he just tweaked something.

I agree that it'd be nice for the Bills to have a deal in place for 2-3 more years (effectively) and not to worry about using a tag on him next season. But I disagree that using it means he's gone the following year. I doubt Taylor would sign it. He'd force a long term deal or trade. $21M isn't that far out of line for a top half of the league QB and it's a great deal if you got him for $3M the previous season. That's a $12M per year average.

Freeney certainly makes sense, but don't overestimate what you'd get out of him at this point. He's at the end of his career and would just be a guy you'd rotate in as a pass rush specialist. Not that that wouldn't be a help.

Thanks for the insight. Any idea whether or not he'd have an increased risk of re-injury if he came back at the point you are now?

I literally scrolled back up to see if Gugny started this thread.

Okay, I'm listening - and I found this: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamst According to Football Outsiders the Bills have a huge advantage on kick offs. Does anyone have a stat for, say, opponent average starting field position after kick offs? I'd like to see them compared to the league with a stat that I can more easily understand. That all said, I'd still like them to find one guy who can do both.

I'd put him 20-something, which is where you have him. He's serviceable with no real upside and he's in real trouble behind that OL this year. He's the best they're going to do for 2016 though.

I hope so. The more I think about it, the more I think TT has earned a bridge deal and the more I'd like to have a chance to see more of him than in just 2016.

I can see what you're trying to do, but I don't think that contract or structure would work for Taylor's camp. I'd be great for the Bills though. It is essentially a 1 year deal plus a two year deal option plus another one year team option. Taylor would get an extra $9M this season, but lose his ability to get a huge deal next offseason. The Bills would be paying that extra $9M to have an option for two more years at $18M & $20M and then another season at $22M. That's a pretty good deal for the Bills, but even if the $12M in 2016 was guaranteed then that's still less than 1/3 of what Osweiler got in initial guarantees. My example might need some numbers tweaked, but it also allows for the tag to be available for Gilmore next season and Watkins the following season. It also keeps Taylor here for two seasons. I like that much more than having just 2016 to evaluate him before deciding how big of a deal to offer him.

He's an awful GM. My guess is that he's getting Irsay's drugs for him.

Good? No, no he's not particularly good. Bad? No, not really bad. Middling? Yes. Is he the best option at QB the Jest presently have or have had in a long time? Yes, and it's really not even close. Is he the guy they should want going forward after this season? No, they should be looking for a better QB.

Seems like we got to almost the exact same place with the same line of reasoning.

I sincerely hope not. It's such a waste of a roster spot.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ryan-fitzpatrick-is-only-as-good-as-brandon-marshall-and-eric-decker-make-him/ Interesting article about Fitz, Marshall and Decker.

https://www.google.com/search?q=trent+richardson+poor+vision&client=safari&hl=en-us&biw=1024&bih=672&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjxpJmcnaTOAhVFHh4KHZOrBukQ_AUICigC&dpr=2 Just look at those pictures. The link is to the Google results for "Trent Richardson poor vision".

It was a point based system. Not perfect, but not subjective either. It was just points awarded for poll appearances, no. 1 rankings and championships. Also, GO BUCKEYES!

They were pretty much all like that. Easily the worst vision of any NFL RB I've ever seen.

It would make sense to see negotiations reach a conclusion for Gilmore and Taylor at about the same time. Both agents know that they have more leverage while both players are unsigned. If the Bills were willing to pay a bit more to get one under contract so they'd have the option to tag the other, I'm sure a deal would get done. It's probably a good sign for Whaley and the Bills that it's going down the way it is. I do always wonder about smoke in these cases. It'd be smart to float a lot of this stuff out there whether or not it was true.

2006 definitely had some players in it: Mario, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, AJ Hawk, Vernon Davis, Jay Cutler, Haloti Ngata, Antonio Cromartie, Manny Lawson, Johnathan Joseph, Santonio Holmes, DeAngelo Williams and Nick Mangold all went in just the first round. There were other decent players, too.

Yeah. It's an odd fight to have. I can see why Eli didn't want to play there.

I'm not even sure there's much of a cash flow difference. Aren't teams still required to set aside all guaranteed money? It's an archaic rule from a time when NFL teams still ran into financial issues, but I think it still exists. Edit: Yup. This article discusses it. Injury guarantees are the only ones that aren't included: http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/6/13/5803890/breaking-down-the-cba-salaries-and-rule-governing-funding-for

Damn! S**t's about to go down!