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Great work here, Bobby! Thanks for your work.

So.....the 3-5 Jets are going to want to trade a DL who has a cheap contract this season and an option year in 2017 for a CB halfway through his option year? Within their division. What sense does that make at all?

Just to clarify my position, I don't think there's any conspiracy against Cam. I just think he's not getting the special treatment a handful of others are getting.

Some stars seem to matter a lot more than others, especially if they play for a certain teams. Cam is right. He isn't being protected like some other QBs. He's not alone in that, but he's probably the biggest "name" that doesn't get calls. I've really given up on expecting officiating to be fair. I'm not blaming the officials either. It's not difficult for a league to make officials aware that certain money-making players need to be protected. The NBA sure does that. No one wants Lebron on the bench at the end of the game because he fouled out. I'm not sure why Cam isn't on the NFL list though. Maybe he pissed off the wrong league official.

Refs know how to protect certain star players. QBs are the most obvious, but other positions get it too. Just watch Antonio Brown repeatedly push off on his routes. Never a flag. Now have Robert Woods try that.

Damn. That's rough. Hope you got something worthwhile for the Bills win in the first meeting.

Bummer. That really sucks Mango. That shouldn't happen anywhere. Don't ever go to Philly to see an Iggles game. What you experienced today at the Ralph would be about the best you could hope for there.

Now someone needs to mock up a video with Whaley throwing it.

Teams talk down injuries all the time to make opponents prepare for all possibilities and to protect their players. Plus many players will hide the severity of injuries so they can stay on the field. The real question is "Was he really close to 100% or was that just posturing by the Bills?" Due to him making his injury worse I have to think he shouldn't have been out there. I'm not pointing my finger at McCoy or the coaches or medical staff since there's no way to know who was responsible. Now we just have to hope he'll be back healthy after the bye.

LOL. Quality point.

I'm one of those people. Thanks. Incognito is an excellent guard and I'm glad we signed and re-signed him. I thought it was a good risk when we brought him in and was very, very happy we kept him at the price we did. But he's has always been an immature moron. This is yet another example of his childish stupidity. The fact that he's talking s**t after the team got its ass handed to them makes it even worse.

So we shouldn't have gone into the season with more than a quality #1 with injury issues (including a serious, known foot injury), a marginal #2 in Woods, a perpetually injured speedster in Goodwin and nothing else but hope?

You should really look at the injuries some other teams have had. Just because you only follow one team doesn't mean others haven't gone through similar (or worse) issues. As for the WR position specifically blame needs to be laid at the feet of someone. Failure to address the position in the offseason is unforgivable. (Some of us brought up the huge need at WR repeatedly all offseason.) I'm not sure if it was Whaley's decision or if he was carrying out marching orders from Rex and his staff. But someone should be held accountable.

We've got 9 more games this season (assuming no playoffs) before we really need to discuss this. Whaley and Ryan are signed through 2019 so it'd be surprising to see either fired with three seasons left on their deals. If the Bills aren't successful by next season, then I think the house gets cleaned.

He's a stud player when he's motivated, not injured and not suspended. He's deep into the NFL's drug program and is looking at a very long suspension if he has another failed test. He's also got a lot of guaranteed money in his contract. That all decreases his trade value. The dead money the Bills would have to eat if they were to trade him prohibits them from trading him at this point. This has been pointed out countless times in this board.

Trades at this time of year often involve either: - paying a premium for talent with a reasonable contract and/or - taking on an overpriced contract, often for an aging vet at the end of his career. I'd sure be trying to find a WR if I were the Bills, but I wouldn't go crazy with compensation. There's only a couple guys out there and who knows what the demands for them are?

My worry is if injuries are an issue again for him next season. If that happens I can see him playing out the option year. Or at least that would be a real possibility. I just don't know how you sign him to a big deal if you can't count on him staying healthy. Maybe they could come to terms on a contract that gives him a nice payday, but gives the Bills some protection if he can't stay on the field. But that'd be tough to do since his option year would provide him a nice, guaranteed chunk of cash. Hope he stays healthy and earns a nice contract so we don't have to worry about all of that.

I don't see how the Bills can wait until after the 2018 season to retain Watkins (assuming that they do want to retain him long term). WRs are getting paid stupidly if they hit FA. Some team would give him a crazy deal and with his injury history it'd be prudent to let him walk if his price got that high. If they want him, after the 2017 season is when they can get him at a decent price.

The team who trades the player away has to eat the cap hit from the remaining prorated signing bonus. All salary and bonus money already paid to the player stays with the old team as well. The new team takes on all unpaid salary, bonuses, etc. In this case, trading for Smith would cost the Bills $2.8125M in 2016 and $8M per season from 2017-2019 if they chose to keep him on the team. They could take him as a rental or tryout player this season if they could get him cheap. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/torrey-smith-7777/

The 49ers would eat the remaining prorated signing bonus cap hit. His salary and per game roster bonuses total $5M this season and we'd only be on the hook for 9/16th of that. So, he'd be easy to fit under the cap this season. Next season gets a little tougher, but it's doable. Details: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/torrey-smith-7777/

Thanks! Loved your reference.

I agree.

I like to watch.

Except that the more concussions someone has, the easier it is for them to have additional concussions and more severe those concussions tend to be. AW is definitely at more risk than the average player.

Aaron does need to hang it up for long term health reasons. Personally, I don't want to see him take anymore physical punishment. I'm not sure in can take it emotionally. I can't fathom what his family feels like. Landry did what I saw Hines Ward make a career of. Things are changing in the NFL. A targeting penalty in the future isn't out of the question. Unlike Ward, Landry wasn't grinning ear to ear after the hit. He seemed visibly upset and concerned about Williams. Maybe that was why there was no retaliation.