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I know Tyrod initiated a conversation with McD. Are there reports of additional conversations or is that it? (I'm seriously asking for information here.)

LMAO! James Harrison agrees.

Ah! No worries. That makes more sense. Hope it was a good distraction.

I'd almost root for them if I thought this would be the case. It's just wishful thinking though. The hype regarding trading Garoppolo and his potential value coming from Foxboro tells me neither Brady nor Belichick is going anywhere any time soon.

Getting a stud do-it-all MLB would be the best case scenario, but I'm just trying to work with what we've got. I'd like to see what Zach can do in the middle behind a quality DL. As for Ragland, where I want to see him on passing downs is on the sideline. No way do I depend on him to cover a TE or RB. Remember, the Nickel is the base defense in the NFL now. That means two LBs (or one LB and a safety-LB hybrid) on the field. Zach can be one of those LBs. Ragland would be a liability.

You might see Zach on the inside on passing downs and Nickel/Dime/etc. packages. Ragland could take the inside on rushing downs and in the base (and bigger) defensive formation(s). Zach could play the outside when in those.

Please tell me you're kidding.

I'm so sorry for your loss, NG. No parent should ever have to go through what you are. My deepest condolences.

Agreed. It would be a good step in the right direction.

Totally agree.

You are an idiot.

Obviously it's the fine tailgating we partake in.

I used to work in the office building on Busch Blvd, just down the street from the plant. Right by the water towers. I usually love the smell of beer brewing and the smell from that place changed depending on the beer they were brewing, but it was usually pretty gross. Too much rice and corn in most of the recipes. Some days it was good though.

Nice. We usually add the host city as well. Not hosting this year though. The late start and finish to the Sunday game has put a real damper on SB partying.

Totally different situation when the player will be healthy before training camp. I'd be delighted with Hooker at 10.

Well, you know, good luck with that.

The Browns gave up a 3rd round comp pick for Collins. If they hadn't re-signed him, they'd be in line for a 3rd round comp pick next season. That's not exactly free spending. The speculation in the media is coming from Pats' shill Jason LaCanfora and its sole purpose is to drive up value for JG. Mary Kay Cabot simply recycled his "report" of Browns interest because, quite frankly, that's all she does. Also, I'm from Cleveland and I do know a lot of people there. Some are even in the know with the Browns. I can give you this much: the Browns haven't even decided on their direction concerning QB in 2017 and that includes any decision on whether or not to pursue a trade for JG. Anyone saying they know what they'll do in this regard, be it JLC, MKC or anyone else is full of ****. From my personal observation, the thought of giving up the 12th pick for a second round prospect with precious little gametape and who is on the last year of his rookie deal would be beyond asinine. It's just wishful thinking by Cheatriots fans and media hype coming from the team.

That's hilarious! And I agree with the early post about Hooker only sliding into the 10-17 range. All that this does is eliminate his offseason workouts and OTAs. It doesn't have an effect on him making training camp, him playing in 2017 or his longevity. He will likely be there at 10 for the Bills now, which would certainly not have been the case otherwise.

The comparison is to show how grossly overpaid he'd be under the extension. And everything paid to him counts against the cap even the team can defer some of it.

The Browns have signed Collins to a 4 year extension already. The Pats will get the Browns 3rd round comp pick for him. The Browns have picks 1, 12, 33, 52 & 65 through the first three rounds. If they do offer anything for JG it won't include a first.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/quarterback/ $40.5M over two seasons is a very significant commitment. It puts him up there with the likes of Rivers, Ryan, Brady, etc. (see link above). He's not remotely close to that level of QB. The average salary gets a little better if he's kept longer, but in all honesty does anyone here want Tyrod for 5 more seasons? I sure don't. I can see him as a bridge QB for a reasonable price, but he not nearly a good enough passer to be a guy I'd make a long term commitment to. People talk of keeping him as a bridge, but how do you give a QB that kind of cash and then try to draft his replacement? Doing so would certainly undermine him and create controversy. It wouldn't reflect well on the Bills as an organization either. Obviously retaining him wouldn't allow for even another bridge level QB to be brought in and it would take cap space away from retaining other talent - and the Bills have a lot of FAs this offseason. The tough part of this is that there's no guarantee that the Bills will find a better replacement (unless they find one immediately in FA before the roster bonus is due). They might not, or it might take years. They've been looking a long time already. But sticking with Taylor is just another way of kicking the same can down the same road. He's just not a good enough passer to warrant such a significant commitment.

It's too much, even for one season. And Taylor would be in for two at that rate. As painful as it might be, the Bills need to walk away. I understand why they might do it - and why some fans want them to - but everyone will regret it if it happens. It'd just be wishful thinking and unwarranted hope leading to a bad decision.

A reasonable take until you look at Taylor's contract. A team is better off moving on rather than way overpaying a QB that's only a decent option.

I don't think that's his point. He's just showing the caliber of QBs who have won championships. The importance of such a QB is obviously his point. There are obvious exceptions, but that means playing much slimmer odds.

The Browns are interested in every QB that might be available. That's not news. MKC has no sources. She just recycles what's already been reported and occasionally throws in her ill informed opinion.