BarleyNY

I don’t think you really got what you were looking for though. You were effectively asking what fans hate the Allen pick so much that they’ll root against him and the Bills. Anyone want to cop to that? The small number of dissenting votes can be accounted for by: - trolls - legit fans of other teams on this site yanking our chain and - people who misunderstood the question

I agree with this entire post. Well said. Cle: So sorry. I take Tyrod over McCarron and Mayfield over Allen every single time. Chi: Trubisky is a better prospect than Allen. Sorry. indy: It all depends on Luck’s health. If healthy, there’s no contest. Wait and see. Jax: Bortles. Wow. It would depend on what Allen becomes. Bortles is serviceable. No QB on the Bills has proven to be so yet. Mia: Ditto Hou: Ditto except Watson showed to be better than serviceable before being injured. Bal: Seriously? Flacco has fallen off considerably since he was Super Bowl MVP. But he was, you know, Super Bowl MVP - and he’s still better than anyone on the Bills roster has shown to be. i hope the Bills QB roster far exceeds my expectations - and I’ll be rooting for them all - but take the rose colored glasses off for just a sec.

I’m sure a few are. Some might’ve misread/misunderstood the poll though. I did at first then changed my vote when I caught my mistake. Kind of a dumb poll as written when you think about it. What’s the point? Who’s still pouting?

Didn’t want the Bills to pick him, but he’s our QB so I’m rooting for him. I’m not sure who wouldn’t be rooting for him whether or not they liked the pick.

Actually Sashi Brown wanted to draft Wentz but coach Hue Jackson didn’t want him.

I remembers thinking that at least we got an extra pick in the trade back before taking EJ. Still wasn’t a fan of him as a prospect. High bust potential and not a great ceiling. Was not a big fan of the fairly expensive trade up for Allen and am not a big fan of him as a prospect, mainly because he has such a high bust potential. But at least he has a very high ceiling and we didn’t give up any future picks. McBean swung for the fences with him and we will just have to hope for the best. Not much else to do at this point.

Wife (Amy) and three kids. This can’t be fun for any of them. I feel for them. For Russ, not so much. Kudos to the Pegula for showing him the door.

I noticed that too. I think I saw one C- for a given day grade. Wow.

This. We’re taking one in the shorts this season to build for the future. It needs to be done. McCarron wasn’t even close to McBean’s first choice as a bridge QB so I’m not expecting much.

Concussions.

Yes. I’ve heard that Darnold is the only QB that the NYG like at 2 and that he’d be their pick if available. I’ve also heard that he won’t be.

It makes a lot of sense. I just hope both teams find their next FQB in this draft.

For what it’s worth, one of the rumors I heard from a Browns source is that Darnold is the only QB that the NYG would take at 2.

You do if you’re trying to inflate the values of the QBs in the draft so you can move the 4th pick for a ransom.

Almost certainly all true.

Rosen. It’s not close. But I’ve not done much real research this season.

Is that what happened there? Or did the poster compare the differences in the specific position groups? Right now I’m struggling to find a position group that’s improved - other than the DL. Several are definitely worse at the moment: QB, OL (by a whole lot), CB, LB and probably even WR. But, as some have noted, this isn’t the final roster. We’ve got the draft and cut downs to pick up help. The other point that has been brought up is point differential, which statistically is a better predictor of teams’ records the following year than their actual record from the previous year. IIRC the Bills exceeded their prediction last season with 9 wins as opposed to their predicted 7 (I think it was 6.7or 6.8). Their differential in 2017 indicated about 7 wins for 2018 too. That explains the rebuild, which is actually comforting to me. The McBean regime recognized that they overachieved last season and they’re preparing for the long term rather than fooling themselves into believing that they could stay the course and repeat their relative success. The upshot for me is that I won’t be expecting a great record next season, but I will expect to see a team building for the future and one that will fill some (but not all of its) holes and be competitive.

Man do I hate the “who knows what will happen until the games are played?” arguement. It’s reasonable t9 make educated guesses that can then be argued. The alternative is never to speculate about anything.

Sadly accurate. Making the playoffs last season will give this regime some capital with the fans and they’re going to spend a far bit of it this season. It’s not a total tear down and they won’t be the worst team in the league, but it’s a rebuild and they won’t make .500 either. Or rather they’d have to hit big at QB for a winn8ng record to happen.

Hearing Darnold is the Browns preference at 1 (not a stretch) and Chubb at 4 if he makes it there (ditto). The 3 way trade is actually a possibility and would result in the Browns taking Mayfield at 2 (after Darnold going 1). Darnold is also the only QB the NYG would take at 2. Otherwise it’s Chubb or Barkley.

It’s a mutual option. He has to agree to it or he’s a FA.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/Every-NFL-Draft-selection-made-by-Cleveland-Browns-John-Dorsey-112328382/Amp There’s a list of all of John Dorsey’s draft picks. He has never spent higher than a 3rd on a RB - and he’s been very successful doing that. He’s not picking Barkley.

Would not have thought of him, but he’d be a great choice. Also I’d vote for Brady if he’d be willing to start immediately.

Yup. That’d be a fantastic outcome.

Gotta disagree on both. Their floors are both rock bottom. That delta is 0. Allen actually has a much higher ceiling, although I’d certainly say the odds of him achieving it are even smaller than Darnold’s (which aren’t high).