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Think it was because it looked exactly the same as if he’d dropped the ball. There was no forward arm motion that I could see. He just released it with his hand. The intent was a shovel pass but you can’t go by intent. If he had just dropped it, it would’ve looked exactly the same. Guessing that was it. I actually thought it was a fair call for that reason.

Really happy with his performance and I’ll say the same of Allen that I did of Mayfield. Lots to like but still some concerns. It's early but the early returns are looking good.

Yup. That’s what Tannehill does. He mostly throws short. That’s why Mike Wallace was such a bad fit there. He was a one trick pony deep threat and Tanny can’t do that well.

Gotcha. I didn’t mean to point to you on this. I meant “you” generally. It is always depressing to see. As both a Bills and Browns fan it’s especially depressing when they’re the two teams being referenced.

I think it’s a very bad sign when you those are the choices you need to drag out to make yourself feel better.

I am really surprised the team is starting him. It seems like someone his age should be brought along slowly behind an aging, but knowledgeable vet. The MLB market isn’t exactly expensive. It could’ve/should’ve been done that way.

The surprising thing about this being a tear down rebuilding year is that the Bills are the 5th oldest team in the NFL. I’d expect them to be a lot younger. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-nfl-teams-age-after-53-man-cutdowns-2018-edition/amp/

From B. Edwards: So funny that everyone is worried my tweet as opposed to the real issue, 0-17 on the road against ranked opponents, 1-6 against rivals and the one win was against a 3-9 MSU. Last thing i will ask and really think about this before you get mad...is Michigan better than Iowa? Yeah. That’s the guy you want.

If Bar Bill is packed you can always get take out from their counter around back and walk into Aurora Brew Works next door for a craft beer to go with the food. They’re happy to let you do that.

So we’re just sure about the “going to get worse” part? Comforting. You gotta laugh or you’re gonna cry.

Allen show that he’s a franchise QB. It’s going to be very difficult due to circumstances, but You asked......

I’d have been for that route as well. Behind this OL it’s wishful thinking to believe that Allen will make it all season. But we can hope. I just don’t want to see Peterman play again if it doesn’t happen.

Because when Allen gets hurt behind the current OL then Peterman migjt not be the next man up. And they’ll need to sign another QB at that point anyway if it’s just Peterman left.

I don’t think it was meant to be this bad. I think it went off the rails when they unexpectedly lost Wood and Cogs. That hurt and it started a snowball because they didn’t alter their plan. They traded Tyrod and Glenn anyway. They wanted their two most important pieces of their team - franchise QB and stud LB (their Luke Kuechley) - and they stayed the course. As I mentioned the dearth at OL and WR cost them a decent bridge QB which cost them a good FA WR (a deal could have been worked out concurrently with a decent FA QB). They should’ve modified their plan and kept Tyrod and Glenn. I can’t imagine what they were thinking by releasing McCarron and going with Peterman and Allen. That’s just incompetence.

Fais statement, especially after one game. Let’s just see where we are after the season. It’s not a stretch to think we will have a lot of needs. QB may indeed be one, but let’s wait a bit on that discussion.

This. Other than Benjamin who was phoning it in? Some problems create others. We have crappy WRs and a crappy OL so no decent bridge QB wanted to come here. No decent QB equated to no serviceable FA WRs wanting to come here. How can lining up Nathan Peterman behind that OL with Kelvin Benjamin as the #1 WR be acceptable? Then think about the fact that they paid AJ McCarron $4M for his preseason work, but didn’t bother to keep him around this season for an extra $2M despite NP’s 5 INTs in a half in his only start and that their high rookie 1st round draft pick is very raw. AJ might be a tier lower than what we’d hope in a bridge QB, but why not keep him around until you see what NP does in live action? It’s mind boggling.

Some of that dead money this year (and next) was self inflicted by this regime. Here’s to total list: 2018 Name Cap Number Marcell Dareus $13,564,705 Eric Wood $10,391,668 Cordy Glenn $9,600,000 Tyrod Taylor $7,640,000 Corey Coleman $3,548,860 Aaron Williams $2,425,000 AJ McCarron $2,100,000 Reggie Ragland $1,224,134 Richie Incognito $1,150,000 Ronald Darby $395,853 Colton Schmidt $200,000 Cardale Jones $191,696 Jonathan Williams $120,458 TOTAL $53,082,645 2019 Name Cap Number AJ McCarron $2,000,000 TOTAL $2,183,295 https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills Approximately $17.25M in dead cap is from glenn, McCarron and Coleman. Trading away a guy that we could sure still use in Glenn and $7.65M for two guys that don’t make the team is poor GMing.

Thanks for doing this. I appreciate an informed opinion and was wondering about his performance. Stat lines often don’t tell the story with players at his position and there was no way I was living through watching that game again.

I don’t disagree with the sentiment. Allen is the best option as of the moment. I covered this in other posts, but I have a huge problem with him being rushed into the starting role at this time and with the lack of offensive talent. The Bills brass isn’t doing him any favors.

Sorry. I'm not going to dumb things down.

I'm a "show me" kind of guy. I'm thinking of the Ryan years and how i heard similar things. How ridiculous those votes of confidence seemed at the time as well as in retrospect.

Not a lot of people have trouble understanding the difference between a stated opinion and a stated fact. Thangs especially true when someone is making a prediction - even an obvious one. Why? Because they are infallible? Do you seriously believe that they could not have made a mistake?

Based on preseason games Peterman earned the start today. He was the best of the three QBs in those games. But because of his infamous start against the LAC no one should be surprised by how poorly he played. Allen now has to be rushed into starting because the Bills were too stupid to have a serviceable QB on the roster.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said Allen is garbage because he went to Wyoming or for any other reason. The offense he quarterbacked last season sucked out loud. Asking Allen to make the jump from one of the worst college offenses in the nation to an NFL offense is way beyond realistic. It's a terrible mistake by Beane and McD to have only Peterman and Allen as the only QBs on the roster. Allen is totally unprepared for what he's being asked to do. He might have a chance to be successful if the offense was otherwise stellar, but there are issues everywhere (except RB). The Bills spent so much capital to get him and now he's not going to get a chance to develop before he's ruined. This is on Beane and McD, not Allen.

You're really reaching because you want to believe in Allen.