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Wife (Amy) and three kids. This can’t be fun for any of them. I feel for them. For Russ, not so much. Kudos to the Pegula for showing him the door.

I noticed that too. I think I saw one C- for a given day grade. Wow.

This. We’re taking one in the shorts this season to build for the future. It needs to be done. McCarron wasn’t even close to McBean’s first choice as a bridge QB so I’m not expecting much.

Concussions.

Yes. I’ve heard that Darnold is the only QB that the NYG like at 2 and that he’d be their pick if available. I’ve also heard that he won’t be.

It makes a lot of sense. I just hope both teams find their next FQB in this draft.

For what it’s worth, one of the rumors I heard from a Browns source is that Darnold is the only QB that the NYG would take at 2.

You do if you’re trying to inflate the values of the QBs in the draft so you can move the 4th pick for a ransom.

Almost certainly all true.

Rosen. It’s not close. But I’ve not done much real research this season.

Is that what happened there? Or did the poster compare the differences in the specific position groups? Right now I’m struggling to find a position group that’s improved - other than the DL. Several are definitely worse at the moment: QB, OL (by a whole lot), CB, LB and probably even WR. But, as some have noted, this isn’t the final roster. We’ve got the draft and cut downs to pick up help. The other point that has been brought up is point differential, which statistically is a better predictor of teams’ records the following year than their actual record from the previous year. IIRC the Bills exceeded their prediction last season with 9 wins as opposed to their predicted 7 (I think it was 6.7or 6.8). Their differential in 2017 indicated about 7 wins for 2018 too. That explains the rebuild, which is actually comforting to me. The McBean regime recognized that they overachieved last season and they’re preparing for the long term rather than fooling themselves into believing that they could stay the course and repeat their relative success. The upshot for me is that I won’t be expecting a great record next season, but I will expect to see a team building for the future and one that will fill some (but not all of its) holes and be competitive.

Man do I hate the “who knows what will happen until the games are played?” arguement. It’s reasonable t9 make educated guesses that can then be argued. The alternative is never to speculate about anything.

Sadly accurate. Making the playoffs last season will give this regime some capital with the fans and they’re going to spend a far bit of it this season. It’s not a total tear down and they won’t be the worst team in the league, but it’s a rebuild and they won’t make .500 either. Or rather they’d have to hit big at QB for a winn8ng record to happen.

Hearing Darnold is the Browns preference at 1 (not a stretch) and Chubb at 4 if he makes it there (ditto). The 3 way trade is actually a possibility and would result in the Browns taking Mayfield at 2 (after Darnold going 1). Darnold is also the only QB the NYG would take at 2. Otherwise it’s Chubb or Barkley.

It’s a mutual option. He has to agree to it or he’s a FA.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/Every-NFL-Draft-selection-made-by-Cleveland-Browns-John-Dorsey-112328382/Amp There’s a list of all of John Dorsey’s draft picks. He has never spent higher than a 3rd on a RB - and he’s been very successful doing that. He’s not picking Barkley.

Would not have thought of him, but he’d be a great choice. Also I’d vote for Brady if he’d be willing to start immediately.

Yup. That’d be a fantastic outcome.

Gotta disagree on both. Their floors are both rock bottom. That delta is 0. Allen actually has a much higher ceiling, although I’d certainly say the odds of him achieving it are even smaller than Darnold’s (which aren’t high).

Deep sideline outs and other throws requiring arm strength are important in keeping defenses honest. If you can’t make those throws then the short stuff won’t be there.

This. Pass rusher or WR.

Agreed. Jackson is about the same caliber (albeit different specifically) of a QB prospect as Mahomes was. It’d be odd to have punted on Mahomes at 10 last season only to go Jackson at 12 this season. Still, I’d take it. Also agree with this. Yikes!

This is a common sort of flaw in many BS rumors. One or two teams get what they want which creates a huge gap for another team. It’d take more than the Bills 2019 1st rounder to make something like this happen. And when was the last 3 way trade done in the NFL? Has it ever happened? edit: I found one 3 team NFL trade in 2010 involving only day 3 picks and players. That’s it.

Heard coaches want Rosen, but aren’t likely to get their way. Dorsey will make the call, but I do not know who it will be.

Browns source. And yes, it’s an inside source. Subject to all the caveats that goes with that - especially with intentional misinformation flowing so freely this time of year. Still, he was pretty adamant about the Browns not really wanting Allen.