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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/yearly/cap/ Wow. Not a lot of important players signed beyond 2019 either.

He made his mark years ago when he was the only media person dialed into front offices around the league. Now no one is and he’s just living off of his old reputation.

The real issue it is that we aren’t going to get that much for Glenn on draft day. We could probably get it from a desperate contender who has an injury at LT after the season starts. That’s the time for premiums to be paid. But not on draft day. He’d go at a discount. I do like that you’re trying to find a way to get a QB though. I’d certainly sell out for one I believed in. I just don’t see how the Bills can climb up to the top of this draft. They’ll have to find another way to get one.

Notably players tend to have the least value on draft day. QBs will always get a premium but any other position will be looked at as a dump by the team getting rid of them. Bad fit for new scheme or other issues - health, contract, attitude, etc. Draft weekend is a much better time to acquire a player than trade one away.

Usually there’s an alternate compensation agreed upon should a traded player fail a physical. Player X or draft pick Y. IIRC Chip Banks was originally included in the trade that netted the Browns Bernie Kosar in the supplemental draft. He refused to report to San Diego and they got a first round pick instead.

Here is a nice interactive chart from Drafttek: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=Buf And here is a chart showing the total value of total draft picks for all teams: http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/power_rankings The Bills rank 6th.

The big difference is that teams’ rookie caps are based on the actual slots they pick at. Say the Browns picked Darnold or Rosen at 1, then Allen or Mayfield at 4 before trading him to a team picking much later in the first. The Browns would have a much larger rookie pool than they needed (no real problem there), but the team trading up would have some real difficulties with that QB’s contract. They couldn’t pay him like the 4th overall pick because of the rules for rookie pools and rookie contracts. Thus it would be prohibitively difficult for a team to make a big trade for a player already drafted by a team. The Browns only trading partners would be the team’s with the next 2 or 3 picks. The Browns plan is to add a vet and take a QB at 1 unless they find a FQB in free agency. I can’t imagine that they think Cousins is such a player, but you never know.......

Ive got an inside source in another city (not Buffalo or Boston). He knew the scoop and shared. That’s all I know about it.

I would. Incidentally it wouldn’t be both of this year’s firsts, it would be our natural 1st this year and next. But it won’t happen. JG’s agent was instrumental in getting him to the team he thought would be best for him. He actually worked with NE brass to make it happen. He’s staying in SF (unfortunately).

I met Brian Daboll a couple years ago. His daughter, who already lived in the Buffalo area with his ex wife, was on my daughter’s soccer team. I can’t say much except that he was a nice person. His fiancée at the time (I think) and daughter also were also good people. Guessing they are married by now if they weren’t. Looks like a good hire hire from a football standpoint too.

One of my all time favorite announcers in any sport. Rest In Peace, Mr. Jackson.

Yup. Not a lot of people understand statistics or modeling.

I follow 538 quite a bit. As Election Day neared they only had HRC as a very slight favorite - and that was with the caveat that there was a very real possibility of Trump winning due to the potential of high turnout among many people typically considered unlikely to vote. They were the only unbiased outlet that I saw give Trump a real chance to win.

Yup. The OP is just offering the same fallacious reasoning we’ve seen before: Look! There are teams with highly paid/franchise QBs that aren’t in the playoff! Ergo it isn’t important to have one. Obviously that’s stupid. What they miss is the massive importance of having a FQB where winning a SB is the goal.

The Bills would need some star power and popularity for that. They don’t have it at this moment. There is one thing that trumps ratings - Goodell’s authority. Don’t cross him or you get hosed. The Saints found out the hard way with Bountygate. Goodell told them to stop and they didn’t. The hammer came down. Josh Gordon lied to Goodell’s face and got hammered. Kraft and the Patriots got away with a lot for very little punishment, but Goodell had to follow through with Brady’s suspension. It was a matter of preserving his authority.

We did not. The Patriots were asking more of AFC teams than NFC teams for him - even from the Browns. No way they give him up to another AFCE team. It was also rumored the Belichick wanted to trade Brady and sign Garoppolo long term, but that was nixed by Kraft. At the time I assumed that the rumor was just posturing to get more in trade for him, but now I believe it.

It’s about money. The NFL isn’t in the business of having a fair or equitable league, it’s in the business of making money. Star players and well liked (and much hated) teams get more people watching. It’s that simple. Notably, this is an important reason to try to obtain a star QB. If you have one that people want to watch, you’ll get the calls.

Yup. And I can’t wait to see if the NFL brass manages to arrange for the Giants to get the best QB prospect in the draft.

Its not bribery, it’s them being encouraged to keep the marquee teams on top. The leauge wants teams like the Patriots and Steelers to be on top. Gotta keep those popular teams on TV. It’s about money.

The payback should be against him or Brady. Not a late shot, but something more like a knee level tackle from a deep safety when he is on a seam route. Or a knee/head shot on Brady is also an option. The message has to be clear: Try to injure or cheap shot a Bill and we will end your playoff hopes. That’s the only way to get this crap to stop. The NFL isn’t properly policing Gronk because they don’t want to hurt their TV ratings. So it’s up to the Bills to do that job - or it’ll never end and we will forever be a bullied little punching bag.

The team is sure watching. Their reaction and the league’s are going to be the only ones that matter - and they won’t let this continue. The stadium will get built downtown, near Pegula’s properties and that’s where people will need to go to drink and eat before and after the games.

Some very interesting analysis in this article to consider when looking for a QB in the offseason. The breakdown of the league’s QBs is really telling. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nfl-quarterbacks-are-leaning-on-the-short-pass-and-its-not-working/ Picture this common scene on a Sunday afternoon. Your team could really use a scoring drive to turn the tide. On a 3rd-and-10, before the quarterback is even pressured, he quickly throws a 2-yard pass, and the receiver is tackled a few yards later to bring up fourth down. The crowd grumbles, the offense casually jogs off the field and the punting unit comes on. Better luck next time. Sure, once in a blue moon the offense may throw a bubble screen on 3rd-and-33 and end up with a 52-yard touchdown, like the Rams did with Robert Woods against the Giants in Week 9 this season. But that is the rarest of exceptions.

I agree. And that doesn’t even factor in failures of QBs due to poor development by teams. It is always interesting to see these things play out.

Figured they’d go 7-9, give or take a game. Looks like that’s about what they’re going to do. Shrug. Lots of people indulge in hyperbole - they gotta be great or they gotta totally suck - but reality has been that they’re pretty average. They can build on that and get better, but it’s who they are this season and it’s who they’ve been for awhile.

Franchise QBs are too intentionally rare to put off. If you have a shot at a player you think can be one, you take him. If not, then add other supporting talent as best you can.