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Dude turns 32 in a few weeks. No extension happening. The ONLY reasons the Bills should try to make a move for him is if it doesn’t cost much in trade and if they think he would help them more properly develop and evaluate Allen.

Yeah. I see them getting through next season at least.

For what? I wouldn’t give him away, but getting real value for him makes sense. Also I’m sure McCoy would be ecstatic to start for a playoff team this season.

Agreed. And it isn’t like Buffalo is the only place you hear it. It’s pretty common.

What has really been an issue is that the schemes have changed so dramatically with each coaching change. Just look at the defense. Attacking, 1-gap 4-3 with cover 2 (Schwartz) to a passive 2-gap 3-4 with man (Wrex) to an attacking 1-gap 4-3 with cover 3 (McD). The Pegulas need to decide who the Bills are going to be and stick with coaches who execute those basic philosophies with their own flavors. I can only hope that the Pegulas have figured that out.

Link?

Read: We didn’t get the kind of offers we wanted for Carr. We will try again in the off season.

The entire defense is above average. Specials are average. RB is above average. The rest of the offense is below average - some parts are WAY below ave. But it’s not like the cupboards are bare overall.

Honestly, I’d thats all it takes to get traded away from Oakland/Vegas then a lot of Raiders are going to be bawling like little girls.

Total BS. David Carr hung in as long as anyone could have expected for Houston. He got the hell beat out of him for 5 seasons behind garbage OLs. They never protected him with scheme either. Chris Palmer, the OC there, did the same thing to Tim Couch in Cleveland when he was HC. It’s a lazy, false narrative.

Fair enough, but in this case there are only 32 of those jobs total and only a handful come available every year. So it’s not a bad idea to take the job and huge contract with lots of guaranteed money. You’ve got a free pass on the garbage HC for a season and have that time to set up the moves you want to make. No need to rush like would have been the case last season. Using all of those picks to improve the team - and Dorsey certainly did that - is only going to help the chances of finding a quality coach too.

Yes. Hue is a dead man walking. Dorsey has thought he was an idiot from day 1. Haslam required Dorsey to keep him into this season as a condition of becoming GM. That’s the only reason he is still there.

Agreed. We have a very productive Hughes for 2019. Why mess that up.for a late round pick? There's not much to be done about Clay. The contract has already done it's damage. $4.5M in salary this year as next to go along with $4.5M signing & option bonus prorated cap hits in each year. Nothing to be done about those. Only the remaining salary can be effected by trading or cutting him. Benjamin can go any time for anything, but I doubt anyone is buying now. Shady's value just plummeted so I don't see him getting moved either despite his ability.

? I’ll just skip the commercials on the recording. I’ll be caught up by the end of the 3rd quarter

Nice stop!

I’m heading to Lowe’s after this drive. Will catch up DVR when I get back. I can’t take this quantity of commercials, injury related or not.

Quality defensive stand for a 3 & out just to give some hope. Aaannnndddd BOOM! Nice job, Fate. Well played.

Wow. A “what if” thread. Let’s just stick with reality. We all know what the likely effects of Allen’s success or failure would be.

Not all of us. Some of us got shouted down when we said how bad that contract was. “That’s what we had to do to get him!” was mostly what people said. No excuse to give him a contract like we did. It wasn’t Whaley’s worst mistake by any stretch, but it was definitely a mistake.

The Peter Principle simply states that people who show competency will be promoted until they’re at a level where they’re incompetent. Think Michael Scott. I was referring more to coaches who are inflexible in their schemes or are only good with certain types of people. Coaches who can recruit (sell!) and are good at leading college kids but can’t effectively coach grown men (some of whom make more money than them) is a good example. McCoy might just need to be under the right kind of head coach to thrive. As a head coach he sure fit the Peter Principle rule well though.

I used to live in Strongsville, OH which is a suburb where many Browns players and staff lived. It’s definitely true that some players really enjoyed the cost of living and lifestyle of places like B-lo and the Cleve. You’re more likely to get family men looking for stable places to raise their families than the younger, single partiers though. IMO that’s not a bad thing. How many high priced free agents went to Miami to party and semi-retire? It’s much more important to build a winner. That way you don’t have to overpay for FAs and you can even get some discounts. That all starts by drafting well.

Plus there is Hyde’s contract to consider. That had to hurt his trade value.

Chuckie is Rex Ryan. Running outdated system and not bothering to update it while milking an owner for stupidly large sums of money (large to the casual fan at least).

Some coaches can’t perform outside of their wheelhouses. Some situations or challenges are simply out of their scope.

Keep going, Kim. You know what you signed up for. It’s the only way I’m getting through this.