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It's almost like the NFL wanted a Los Angeles team in the Super Bowl.

He had offsets in his contract with the Browns. His salary in Cincy was deducted from the $4.75M the Browns were still paying him. I believe that was it as far as guarantees from the Browns. It had been noted that when the Bengals played the Browns (twice) while he was coaching the Bengals the Browns were paying him way more than the Bengals. Turns out it was money well spent.

Wow. That would be incredibly important.

1. You have to really ask yourself what mentoring by McCoy and Clay is really worth. Clay’s injuries have made everything else about him meaningless. It’s too bad. McCoy needs to earn his way with his play. He’s not the mentor you want for young players. 2. Cap space can be carried forward. Don’t spend what you don’t need to spend. No sense overpaying older players on their last year. 3. Maybe McCoy. Maybe. Not Clay. 4. You can’t bank on trading them midseason. There’s a better chance that these players get injured. Plus they’ll take up roster spots. 5. You can’t restructure the last year of a deal without extending the players. Why would they do that? The total cap hit would stay the same anyway. Also we don’t need the space this season. 6. See #1 i appreciate that you don’t want them to just get cut, but Clay is gone. McCoy probably is too.

Tons of money at stake so it would be little surprise if people want to fight over it.

I don’t know what their plan is, but I hope they don’t go crazy unless it’s for an elite player. Overspending on good players should be limited to one or two year deals. A real problem is that they need help at premier positions and getting high quality players at those positions will likely require drafting them. Overpaying for someone like Clowney would be very worthwhile, but that’s a long shot at best. Ultimately finding good fits at reasonable contracts will be most of FA. I expect them to be aggressive in the draft. They’re going to go after their guys. The full rebuild won’t be done this year but they can be a lot better with a solid showing in FA and 2-3 quality players in the draft.

This is fantastic. Please update with all possible details. Thank you.

No coach has deserved being fired twice in a season more. That includes Wrex (just barely), which is really saying something. Maybe Rob though.

It’s only guaranteed for injury until the start of that season when it becomes fully guaranteed. They can exercise and rescind later if they can’t work out a LTD and don’t think he’s worth it. The injury risk is worth that IMO.

Actually a a really nice goodbye from Gregg. Props.

Prior to coming to Cleveland last season Bruce Arians has been grooming Kitchens to take over as HC in AZ when he left. So he’s had some exposure to those things.

Heard from several people with close ties to the team that they thought Kitchens was the right choice. That has been the case for weeks. Also heard that many players did not want Gregg retained as HC or DC and that they conveyed that to the powers that be in Berea.

Yeah. Ability to understand the position including route running/options and ability to separate. Just get me that.

Yup. It was particularly egregious to put a raw rookie QB into an offense with a vertical passing game with such poor OTs and no real weapons at WR or TE. Add in no running game and it's no surprise that Allen and the passing offense struggled.

I agree that Brown is still an elite talent and will be for a few more seasons. But I just don't want him on my team. He sure seems to be all about himself and not his team. You can sometimes get away with adding a selfish, but highly talented player to a mature, successful team. But you can't build a team like that. I wonder if any of the posters here who are clambering for AB also rip on OBJ (who hasn't done done things that come close to what AB just did).

Running is a very nice extra for a QB, but to highly rate one that player should be an effective and efficient passer. Chubb was PFFs highest rated RB overall, not just rookie RB. Allen wasn’t a well rated QB. He has shown flashes - and that’s great wrt giving fans hope - but it isn’t the same as being good at his job (yet). It’s that simple. I’ll take the guy who did his job the best.

Wow! Are you really using a QB’s rushing stats to judge that player? Just wow. Sure positional importance/difficulty should be favored in, but if you’re going to do that then you really need to judge a player on their primary job.

It’s not. You should watch him play. He earned that ranking.

7 games as full time QB. Still, it’s difficult to think that ranking is reasonable.

I’d be it has to do with snaps played. Ward has a much bigger sample size and that should sure count for something. Notably PFF had Nick Chubb as the RB with the best rating. He was first not only amongst rookies, but all RBs. Barkley was ranked 2nd among rookies and 3rd among all RBs. Yet Barkley is 1st on the list above and Chubb is 9th. That’s likely because Barkley has twice the touches that Chubb had. PFF noted exactly that when they named Barkley the best rookie RB.

Check out Ryan Clark’s video on ESPN. It seems like the Steelers have done a good job of keeping his antics in house. http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/25660913

I have to disagree. Brown has been a tremendous WR to be sure, but what are you buying and for now much? A first? More? Two seconds maybe? That's for a guy that'll be 31 before next season starts. How many more of those seasons does he have left? It's also for a guy who seems to believe that he's more important than his teammates or his team. He got paid big time by the Steelers and with a playoff spot on the line he blew off practice, team meetings and the freaking game! Notably it was the third time this season he has pulled stuff like this. He also left his teammates and coaches hanging before the Bengals game. His teammates still thought that he was playing up until gametime. He refused to suit up and left at halftime. That's not someone I want on my team.

Yeah, he would be a big investment both in terms of draft picks and cap. Just seems like a huge risk. If he can’t be happy in Pittsburgh with Ben then what would he be like here? Unless (like you said) there’s something to the situation we aren’t hearing yet that puts him in a better light, then I’ll pass.

Gotta be honest, while we could sure use his talent I do not want players with his me-first attitude on this team. That can be so toxic.

Actually EJ was at the sideline and should have stepped out a yard or two earlier than he did. He already had the first down so no reason to take the hit. This link has both plays. Second video. First one has Kiko at his best. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000255233/article/what-we-learned-thursday-ej-manuels-injury-was-key