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You asked why you should be considered racist if you use the word “Redskins”. I am simply asking for you to explain why it’s so important to you that you be able to use a word that many consider a racial slur when a different, inoffensive word could easily be used in its place?

Well, it’s a BS poll. Link It suits your agenda, but it wasn’t a real poll and even a cursory examination shows what it was. Why not answer the questions I posed? Why hide behind some BS poll? Why use a slur when you could just as easily use another name? Why is it so important to you to be able to say “Redskins”?

It’s not a minority among the native population. In any event it’s a whole lot of people who view “redskins” as a slur. It’s also kind of ridiculous to point to intent. It’s something that a lot of people view as a racial slur and there’s certainly good reason why. To me it’s similar to this true story. I have had a friend since kindergarten and I’m 51 now. I used to call him Billy. We were kids and it differentiated him from my uncle Bill. One day when I was in college he says to me “You know, you’re the only one that still calls me Billy.” He was telling me that he knew it wasn’t intentional, but that it was disrespectful. So I started calling him Bill. It cost me nothing to do that and it was a respectful way to treat another person. That’s what this amounts to with Washington.

You’re putting a lot of words in my mouth. I responded to someone who asked how someone who continued to refer to the team as the Redskins should be perceived. Feel free to respond to that. When referring to the team historically I’d say it depends on context. I’d think that rather than use a racial slur people will use the new name if the context is simply old records or wins. Everyone will know who they mean. In years to come newer/younger fans won’t associate the old name with the team anyway. So why would you deem it necessary to use “Redskins” when referring to Washington’s past? Everyone would know what team you meant if you used the new name. What’s gained by insisting on using a slur?

Most people, I’d think. Why else would someone intentionally continue to use the old name other than because they are acting out?

Brown is likely due a suspension if/when he is signed by a team, no?

The Bills have a poor TE corps and it’s easily the worst unit of the team IMO. But I still wouldn’t trade anything of value for Njoku. He is supremely talented athletically, but he is an unwilling blocker and he drops far too many passes. His attitude has also been an issue in Cleveland. That said, the Browns still need him for at least this season due to Stefanski’s use of 2 TEs so much of the time. Another issue with Njoku and the Bills is that he’s a flex TE. Using him and an in-line TE would take Beasley off the field unless we wanted to go empty backfield. He doesn’t make much sense here.

No. Hunt is on his fourth year tender contract. He’ll be a FA after this season. That’s just Berry’s way of saying “no” to trading him. Unless some team wants to get stupid.

That is correct at this time, but he was overrated on this board by most posters nearly the whole time he was here. If Allen doesn’t improve then I suspect he’ll get much the same treatment.

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Please link. I remember hearing the podcast, but cant find the article you’re referencing with Google.

This is so wrong it hurts to read. The people at PFF have a specific way of collecting and analyzing data that they use to rate QBs. Allen does poorly by their metrics. He did poorly in college and he’s done poorly in the pros. It is what it is. If he improves, then they’ll rate him better. If he becomes a successful NFL QB despite doing poorly with their metrics, then they’ll take a look at changing their metrics. I’ve literally heard them say exactly that when talking about Allen.

Where’d that come from? Because I heard the original podcast.

Just to further clarify what was said by PFF, it was a highly qualified comment about Hodges and Allen. It was something to the effect of Hodges having been graded higher than Allen in the couple games leading up to the Bills v Steelers game. The guy made a point of how difficult it was to find any positive thing to say in regard to the Steelers offense and Hodges versus the Bills.

Let’s not make that one sided. In many cases the police have been the ones to initiate violence. I’ve seen enough footage of that that I can’t imagine you haven’t. In some other cases police have reacted with violence to violence initiated by suspected or known white supremacists within the crowd of protesters.

At the risk of getting back on topic, there is definitely a strong effort by white supremacists to incite violence and derail progress. That includes directly committing violent acts against police at demonstrations and inciting both sides online. I’m surprised we’re so far into this thread without that being mentioned.

I suspect that when the technology reaches the point where fully functional and very realistic companion androids are affordable by the masses we will see a significant population downturn.

Whoa, whoa, whoa there. He’s also fat.

PFF generally has good, unbiased analysis

Looking at him to be a quality rotational DE who is primarily used on passing downs to get to QBs. Addison was a good signing IMO.

That’s the big risk associated with QBs who need to make a substantial mechanical improvement. There’s a huge payoff if it happens, but it usually doesn’t. Fixing a throwing motion is like fixing a golf swing - except that a bunch of 265 pound men are trying to destroy you and you only have 2.5 seconds to look at the fairway and take your swing before that happens. Pennington got destroyed physically before he improved enough. I didn’t watch his career closely enough to be able to tell how he was handled by the Jest so I don’t know if they ruined him or if he didn’t have a chance. The weird thing will Allen is that he was such a mess mechanically, but did better than expected with that considered. So what happens if his mechanics don’t ever get “fixed” but get improved somewhat. Where does he land performance-wise with that? With everything else he can do, will that be good enough? I just hope we have football this year and can find out.

That’s true, but I don’t ever expect a DB to have good hands. If they did, they’d be a WR.

There's a lot here that I really agree with, but I think Adams’ coverage skills get underrated. Coverage was his weak link, relatively speaking, coming out of college and that carried through his rookie season. Since then he’s improved greatly, however. Now he’s excellent across the board - he can play the run, cover and rush the passer. He’d be perfect in a “positionless” defense like the Ravens and he could be a huge asset in any system that can utilize his whole skill set. The real issue with acquiring him is trading away a 2021 first round pick. Usually teams have a reasonably good idea of where their pick will fall, but there is a ton of uncertainty about next year’s draft right now. We could have a shortened season, a canceled season or some weird COVID-19 impacted season. What if KC were to trade their first rounder (and more) for Adams and then have Mahomes and a bunch of other starters quarantined for six games of an eight game season? All of a sudden that late first rounder is a top ten pick. Scenarios like that could be even worse for teams expected to be in the middle of the pack. I’d love to have Adams on my team, though. I know that he’s not a fit for the Bills right now due to extensions for Poyer and Hyde, but I’d still love to have him. Had Poyer not just gotten his extension I would have been very interested in trading him and picks for Adams (not that the Jest would trade with us). He can make a huge impact on games, but it’s just a weird time for a team to trade for him. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.

I am legitimately surprised every time someone links a NY Post article. I always expect it to be some kind of joke.

Interestingly, any drafted player that is not signed can go back into the following draft. The team that selected them would not be permitted to select them again. This is a standing rule, not something COVID related. It has a real possibility of coming into play with some players - most notably Burrow.