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At this point I would be very surprised if Darnold and Allen become the two best of that class, but that can be for another thread. As for Mayfield being a finished product, you’re kidding, right? While he was more of a finished product than Allen, he came from a spread offense that didn’t even put him under center. Two days into training camp his OC remarked that he’d lined up under Center more in those two days of practice than he did in three seasons in college. And yeah, Allen does get a break for coming into the league as raw as he did. He should. I hated seeing him put on the field in his rookie year, especially with such a poor supporting cast around him. Maybe it worked out as a learning experience, but I’d have rather seen him improving things like his arm mechanics and footwork first. To his credit he has made big improvements on both, though neither is a finished product yet. But he still looks undeveloped in making reads, accuracy and ball security. Other QBs coming out of college still have to develop in some areas. That’s pretty normal. But coming into the league Allen had more on his plate than other first round QBs in that regard. That doesn’t mean that he can’t do it. It does mean that it would be reasonable for it to take him a little longer though. My fear with Allen is that his progression stops. As long as I see him improving I’ll be happy. I make a habit of looking at that kind of thing in blocks of 4 games during the season which keeps me from overreacting to any single game. So I’ll see what he looks like through the quarter turn of this season and go from there.

I don’t want to get in this argument too deeply, but it’s worth noting that players and their situations should be looked at the same way. Allen gets a lot of leeway for coming into the league so raw, for not having a #1 WR last season and for the total crap show he was thrown into in his rookie season. That’s all fair. Daboll takes a lot of blame too. IMO too much gets attributed to him though. It is equally fair to look at Mayfield’s situation. Him having Landry and OBJ last season gets brought up a lot, but both played injured the whole season which doesn’t. He had a terrible set of OTs and got put into a scheme that exposed them terribly. It didn’t exactly fit him either. He also had a god awful HC calling plays. If you see the replay of Bills v Browns or any other Browns game from last season check out the first dozen or so plays versus the rest. The early plays are scripted and the OC installed them and they were practiced. It’s a whole different team and QB there. After that they’re a mess because Kitchens was calling the plays. And we aren’t even talking about all of the upheaval and changes Mayfield saw in his rookie season. All of that is fair to include in his evaluation too. Honestly it’s pretty pointless to compare Allen and Mayfield at this time. Allen was so raw that we don’t know where he’s going to top out at. It’s fair to see his development and be encouraged that it’ll continue. Let’s watch and see how that works out. As for Mayfield, it’s also fair to wait and see if he gets some stability around him before passing judgement.

Yeah, I know. Wow. Replacing Thomas was exactly what I was thinking for Delpit. Thomas looked pretty done last season and that defense was fantastic. Imagine it with Delpit back there instead.

His contested catch ability reminds of a friend of mine who pitched in college. “I had a great move to first base. The problem was I needed it.” He did not separate well. If Dubois is sufficiently athletic enough to play in the NFL I could see him finding success as a Big Slot WR paired with an accurate QB though. Just from the clips on the link you can see that he’s a heady player who will be able to find soft spots in zones. If the QB can put the ball on the money when he’s in man, then he’ll be open there as well. It’s too bad he didn’t get that Combine invite because that could’ve answered the questions about his athleticism - and now there’s no Pro Days. Knowing the answer to that would determine if he’s draftable in the late rounds or not. Still, I’m sure teams will want to take a look at him.

Dunno man. I see them both as big - and pretty close to equivalent - needs this year. It’s not a great year for DEs in the draft either so I can see better value sitting there at CB for us. I’d certainly be okay with either position at 54 as both need some young talent added.

I can see your point and I do expect the Bills to take one somewhere. But there should still be WRs available as UDFAs who would have been very draftable players in most years. So even if it shakes out where we don’t draft one there’s still some hope.

It’s difficult to see a fit here for Delpit. I get that he’s talented and that he played through injury last season. But the getting a safety early (and with that much draft capital) would have to mean that we’d be in Big Nickel most of the time and want 3 on the field most of the time. Someone to edge us closer to a positionless back 7 would make sense. But how does taking a guy who could be a stud centerfielder make that happen? Anyone comfortable with Poyer moving to the Big Nickel spot? He’d be the best bet and I don’t love it. It sure couldn’t be Delpit anytime soon with his tackling issues. I see Delpit as a fit for C2 or C1 teams. His range is just too good to put elsewhere. I know we play those looks, but as a C3 team I just don’t see using a lot of draft capital on a player like him. Honestly I can see the Ravens taking him in the first. He’s exactly their kind of player and the kind of pick they’d make.

How far up do you think #54 and a mid rounder will get us? To get back into the first round it would cost us 54 and next year’s first. Even 54 and 86 would only get us to 38 per the usual trade chart. I highly doubt we’d do any better than that in this draft as early round two is a pretty sweet spot. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=Buf

I would totally be on board with that one. Might be my favorite yet. Also the red helmet with the white standing buffalo would make a cool throwback. As you can probably tell, I am partial to the old school style buffalo.

Dunno, it seems like a pretty minor adjustment needed by NFL teams and agents. So it takes a little while longer to hash out UDFAs and teams will have to be more organized. So what? My 14 yo daughter and her friends could handle the real time information sharing from their homes. She’s doing that every day right now. At a time where some Americans are having real hardships this seems like a pretty minor inconvenience.

Wow, that was a poorly done article. There seemed to be no methodology to it at all. It’s supposed to be about the overarching QB situation - QB, contract, backups, coaches and supporting players - but the writer sporadically used and ignored those criteria to create his rankings. FWIW Minshew only came in last because of his supporting cast.

Doing a draft from zero really wouldn’t tell you much about the QBs except who is proven and who is going with upside. The better question is: What kind of contract would you give each player, particularly Allen? That is a particularly good question since it’s one that’ll need answered in the real world soon.

So sorry about Kenny ?

Only the losers B word about bad calls because they’re the only ones looking for them. The winners are on to the next game. Few notice the calls - whether they’re good, bad, questionable or just properly enforced bad rules - when they go in their team’s favor. They only dissect them when they don’t and they lose.

Interesting article and discussion. Why not just make it a defensive TD and award it to the defender making the tackle? Proceed from there like any TD. 6 points and PAT/2-pt conversation, then kick off to follow.

Please update this post to reflect the fact that as part of the Clowney to Seattle trade Houston ate $7M of his contract. This is 100% true and is reflected in the dead money attributed to Clowney in 2019 shown here: Texicans 2019 salary cap info Edit: spelling/autocorrect

RB is a big need. I do favor adding one that is a complete threat though. A RB who can pass protect and catch the ball out of the backfield are important parts of the passing game too. Right now Singletary is all we have and the offense changed dramatically when he was out getting breathers or missing games last season. I am not interested in pushing our luck. Get me another quality RB who has a complete game. I don’t care where we find that RB, but we need one like that. Edit: Singletary had 151 rush attempts (and 29 receptions) in 12 games in 2019. I have to think that we’d have run the ball - and run it much more effectively - with a second quality RB getting touches.

Want to amend this. It’ll likely be takeout but sushi from Fuji Grill will probably be first. Not technically dining out, but I can’t get it now. Lola is the bomb if you like Michael Symon’s restaurants.

“That’s not funny, that’s sick” had that on the cover. It was a tremendous comedy album. Bill Murray and Brian Doyle Murray were on it, among others.

My opinion of CC has changed over the years. He started off bad, but really seemed to take his job seriously as a professional. He got quite good and insightful there for awhile, but then he fell back down into pretty bad territory. A lot of it is getting stuck on talking points, some of which are very questionable to begin with. Then there’s my biggest pet peeve - when he does little besides state the obvious.

I seem to remember that he was pretty decent early in his career. Maybe he just got lazy and started phoning it in.

Probably Prescott’s Provisions in NT. Unless there’s sports on, then probably some place for wings - like Bar Bill.

That sounds awesome. Enjoy it!

Congratulations on the house!

Agreed. Time for us all to come together for the common good.