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In that case then IMO he has earned it and should get a contract commensurate with that level of success. Much like having a HC on a series of one year contracts, doing that with your QB really would undermine him and the team. By the end of year 4 we will know what we have in Allen. There’s no need to dodge the difficult decision at that point. Commit to him or wish him well. There is just such a narrow path for your scenario to even make sense. So for the next four seasons he’s going to be good enough that you want to see one more year of him, but not good enough that you don’t want to see three more years of him? I can’t see that happening. Then there’s the very high probability that Allen would refuse to sign a tender and force a real decision. And on the slim chance he would play under two tenders, then he’d be a FA after the second tag. You think he’d come back here after getting jerked around like that? I get that it’d be a tough spot to be in, but these guys get paid well to make those decisions. No way should this go further than one tag after the option year which leads to a LTD before that season. If he’s not worth committing to by then, then that’s the decision. One last aspect of this is that if they are not sold on Allen, then what about bringing in real competition? Fail to do so and you risk losing a season or two. Do it and you risk QB controversy and a divided locker room.
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I get that you’re referring to using a 5th year option and two tags, but I can’t see how kicking the can down the road would work for that long. Too much money at stake and too many other factors. Can you imagine the impact on signing free agents? Or the locker room discord? Even with Allen being as raw as he was, we should know for sure by end of year 4. Even with some mitigating circumstances (like lost time due to injury) I definitely can’t see this going past five years without a long term commitment or parting ways.
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QB purgatory is truly the worst case scenario. Good ownership that has a handle on what it has in the coaching staff is huge in that case. I believe that there are a number of times that a marginal starting QB got a big contract simply because the GM and/or HC thought he’d be out the door with him if they moved on. IF that’s how it goes here, then I hope the Pegulas keep McD, Beane & Co. around.
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Quarterback sneaks and Josh Allen stats
BarleyNY replied to CorkScrewHill's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I think it has to do with the risk of injury to QBs. It’s not a high risk percentage wise, but it could be catastrophic in the rare event it happens. Even having the QB pulled out for concussion evaluation would be an issue. But Allen is so physically imposing that it would be a mistake not to use sneaks. I’m happy that we employ it as much as we do, at least while Allen is young. -
Goodell Admits NFL Was Wrong Not to Listen
BarleyNY replied to K-9's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
First of all, I’m not proposing anything. I am explaining what happened in this case as well as many before it. That’s how protest work. I get that you don’t want your leisure activity to include a demonstration. Okay. But the other side sees an America where they are second class citizens. They see black people die at the hands of police over and over and nothing done about it. They see the few incidents caught on video where the offending officers are held accountable as the rare exceptions, not the rule. The biggest factor in how people view this issue is whether they see the recent deaths of black people at the hands of police as isolated incidents or as something systemic. It’s as simple as that. The people protesting definitely see it as systemic. Protesting in that case seems pretty justified to me. If the murder of George Floyd hadn’t been recorded, then he’d be just another statistic. Does anyone honestly think that anyone would be held accountable? We’ve heard the officers say he was resisting and seen the videos that show he wasn’t. But without those videos who’s questioning the story of the police? Personally I can’t see how some momentary discomfort at a football game outweighs the outrage of that. I’ll just ask that you think about the position of people who live every day like that and I’ll leave it there. -
Goodell Admits NFL Was Wrong Not to Listen
BarleyNY replied to K-9's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I understood what you wrote, but you’re missing my point. What you don’t like about it is exactly the point of it being done that way. -
Goodell Admits NFL Was Wrong Not to Listen
BarleyNY replied to K-9's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Very well said. -
The Athletic cutting staff/salaries
BarleyNY replied to \GoBillsInDallas/'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I found this too. Estimated value of $300M. VCs probably have a pretty sizable share of the company. There might be some cold blooded decisions made, but that might be necessary to save it. As long as they don’t do things to hurt their long term success (like cutting talent they can’t get back or adequately replace) they should bounce back. You never know with stuff like this. It often depends who’s making the decisions and why. -
The Athletic cutting staff/salaries
BarleyNY replied to \GoBillsInDallas/'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I do not know if they have a lot of VC funding or not. But I can tell you that if they do, then the VCs are probably driving the bus right now. They seem to always have ways to protect their investments baked into their agreements directly or indirectly. Cost cutting in a downturn is going to happen with VCs involved. -
Goodell Admits NFL Was Wrong Not to Listen
BarleyNY replied to K-9's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I think that’s the point of it though. To use that particular type of platform as a way of putting issues in front of people who could otherwise ignore them. The fact that it makes some of the people who typically live in relative comfort a little uncomfortable is intentional and designed to make those people stop and think. All won’t, but some will. -
Drew Brees: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to billrooter's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Check yourself, bud. And don’t put words into my mouth. I responded to the assertion that the $1B redirection of funds from NYPD would be catastrophic to the city with businesses shut down and general mayhem ensuing. I gave facts. That the $1B would be over 4 years and that it amounted to $250M/year or 4% of their $6B yearly budget. A budget that has grown 30% since ‘14 when it was $4.6B. I just called out BS as BS. -
Drew Brees: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to billrooter's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
See my previous comment on the finances of the NYCPD. I don’t GAF about Debasio. But the reality of the finances versus the mischaracterization of them here and elsewhere is ridiculous. Cliffs notes: $4.6B budget in 2014 up to $6B now. The proposal to redirect $250M per year, or about 4% of the drastically increased budget, for 4 years is hardly going to have a big impact. Learn your facts. -
Drew Brees: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to billrooter's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
That’s a sweeping statement and I debunked one example you gave in minutes. There are looming budget crises in innumerable cities due to the economic slowdown caused by COVID-19. Police departments are usually impacted the least when cutbacks happen, but they probably won’t dodge them this time due to the magnitude of the budget shortfalls. Rightly, some people have pointed out that under these circumstances PDs should have to shoulder some of the burden. Others do seem to want to do so as a punitive measure. While I would be wary of using budget cuts punitively, they’ll probably happen this year for economic reasons alone. Those cuts shouldn’t be confused with punitive ones and it should be up to each city to prioritize their spending. -
Drew Brees: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to billrooter's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I just looked this up and the reality is VERY different from what you are indicating. The proposal is to redistribute $1B over four years our of a $6M yearly budget. That money would go toward revitalizing disadvantaged neighborhoods. $250M of $6B is 4.17%. Quite frankly, I wonder why their budget rose from $4.6B in 2014 to $6B. Seems like trimming it to $5.75B in 2021 would be manageable. https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/06/04/brutal-math-the-nypds-6b-budget-must-be-cut-advocates-and-lawmakers-say/ -
Drew Brees: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to billrooter's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Wow. This is the world we live in. Shannon Sharpe is a concise, coherent, well-reasoned and well-spoken voice in the darkness while our President mostly sits in a bunker sending ridiculous tweets, has peaceful protestors tear gassed for a photo op and threatens to use the US military against its own citizens. Up is down, high is low, dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria. Honestly, this is the most insane time I’ve ever seen. By a long, long way. It’s like we’re all in some crazy Truman Show-like reality show and the producers are sitting there wondering how we haven’t figured it all out yet. Sometimes your head explodes. -
Drew Brees: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to billrooter's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Not what I addressed in my post. Try to stay on topic. But here’s my take concerning police forces: A necessary component of a democracy is the ability of its citizens to effectively oversee the people who’s job it is to police them. (Thus the outrage over Trump’s recent threats to utilize the military against US citizens.) I know nothing specific about any calls to defund police departments, but I fully support implementing reasonable measures to oversee them. I would not support blanket defunding of all of them, but I would support any array of disciplinary actions against those found to be chronic violators of people’s civil rights. Actions should have consequences, no? -
Drew Brees: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to billrooter's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I think you should look into how many of those people you listed grew up. That almost always stays with a person. As for the current bail system, that’s a tremendously important problem in need of reform. Ditto for-profit prisons. -
That is another thing of value with the Diggs trade. With him ready to roll this sets the table on offense. Allen steps it up or he doesn’t, but at least the Bills should have some clarity with him this season. That’s huge because the significant financial decisions start getting made next offseason.
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Great read, Stu. Thanks.
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Jake Fromm: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to Elite Poster's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Tre’s right about the response by Brees. I had the same reaction: Brees has a good PR person. Not a great one though because a great PR person would have made it seem more genuine and believable. -
Jake Fromm: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to Elite Poster's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Truth. I read them all. It was the first season of kid pitch baseball. I had the time. Cogs is a pretty awful person. I don’t think he intentionally bullied his teammate, but he’s not a good dude. Or was not at the time. -
Drew Brees: Controversial comments
BarleyNY replied to billrooter's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Well said. You, Kirby and others here have voiced my opinion better than I could have so I’ll just add this: If we are going to better our country, then this can’t be about any symbol, person or specific act. The people who want to keep this country divided are the ones doing that now as well as trying to incite all sides. They also make simple, false equivocations. They make the issue about a bad cop or a QB kneeling for the anthem. The focus has to be on the problem at hand and how to improve our society. The brave men and women who fought and died for our country didn’t do it so we could sit around and have petty, fruitless squabbles much less harm each other for no reason. Give them their due and put in the difficult, hard work to make this a better country. Even if you have to change your mind a little in the process. -
Yeah. And the reality is that the worst case scenario with Diggs is that he goes off on Allen. But that’s only going to happen if Allen plays poorly. In that case, so what? The season is lost and we’d have bigger problems with the team. But if Allen plays well, then Diggs should be a happy camper and he can help elevate the team. Diggs might amplify a good or bad situation, but he’s not going to create either all by himself.
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Diggs for a one and change plus his contract versus Lamb for a one and two on a rookie deal. It’s debatable depending on a team’s circumstances, but I prefer the Diggs trade. It isn’t the picks involved, it’s the certainty of getting a top end WR on day 1 that matters to me. There’s risk and development time with Lamb and I’ll happily take on the additional contract dollars for the immediacy and certainty. Still, it wasn’t really a choice between the two since the decision on Diggs had to be made long before the draft.
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Minny looked into trading up to get Lamb, but Atlanta (picking right before Dallas) demanded their first and second. I’d have done that in a heartbeat for Lamb if we hadn’t traded for Diggs, but there’s no good reason he should’ve fallen that far. He was only still on the board because the Raiders were stupid enough to take Ruggs at 12 over every other WR in the draft. SMDH