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I don’t see a forfeit happening either, but the NFL is not effing around here. If things get out of hand and this happens with other teams, then it could hit the NFL hard in the pocketbook. That’s a very big no-no. So I was thinking more along the lines of some stiff fines/suspensions and lost draft picks. The message will be clear: Everyone get in line and don’t F up our cash flow, I mean, season.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2912543-report-sentiment-among-nfl-teams-titans-should-forfeit-vs-bills-after-outbreak.amp.html Looks like a lot of people want the Titans to forfeit. That surprises me, but it’s out there. Looks like the punishment will be severe.

Seems likely

There are many here who love to put all/most of the offense’s past problems on his shoulders. But the truth is that while he hasn’t been perfect, he’s been pretty badly hamstrung up until this season. First it was a trash OL and a rookie QB who was by no means ready for the NFL (and should not have been put behind that line). My criticism of Daboll that season would be his part in jettisoning McCarron and allowing Peterman to take the field. Last season the offensive line and skill positions took a big step forward, as did Allen. Unsurprisingly Daboll looked better too. This season the OL is solid, the skill positions are above average (led by a stellar WR corps) and he has a QB who is playing like he has arrived (knock on wood). So yeah, Daboll is now showing what he can do with talent in place. He’s a very good OC and he’s going to get looks as a HC if the Bills continue to be successful on offense. That is a disadvantage when your HC is a defensive guy. In today’s NFL offensive minds are in demand and OCs who run good offenses will get snatched up. We will just have to find another good one if Daboll moves on up somewhere else. At least that means we are having success.

It is a 3 year, $15M deal or effectively a $5.75M one year deal. The latter would tie him for 26th among OGs (or he’d be at 33rd at $5M AAV with the former). Spotrac OG AAV here. That’s a pretty obvious overpay for a guy who just got shuffled to the bench or was a pretty marginal starter. I can accept that Beane overpaid him to keep continuity on the line and ensure we had good IOL depth, but he still overpaid by about double. But in the end it’s only $2M-$3M in cap space and that isn’t going to have a big impact on the team so I’m not going to belabor the point any further. The real tragedy for the Bills is that they paid Spain and traded away Teller.

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/board/105323/Contents/breaking-down-wyatt-tellers-heroics-jedrick-wills-struggles-152200632/ Here is a breakdown of Teller (and rookie LT Wills) by a browns fan site. He looks like an All Pro right now. Bill Callahan is a freaking miracle worker for that OL.

True. I live my Buckeyes, but I never saw Haskins as NFL starter material.

People shouldn’t sleep on Fields. There will be more than one QB prospect teams will be going after in this draft.

Yeah, I get what they did. It just seemed like a lot of money for what we were getting with him. I get that the payout wasn’t that huge, but who else was going to give him that kind of contract? He’s exactly the kind of player on the kind of contract that gets churned off of a roster by a younger, cheaper player.

Yup. Enjoy it, whatever it is or becomes.

As much as I loved what Beane did with Dawkins and Tre, I scratched my head about the Spain contract.

This is why extending Dawkins had to be the #1 priority this past offseason. Imagine having to find a LT on top of a RT and another OG. Yes, we could have tagged Dawkins, but that would’ve dramatically increased his contract. Beane did very well.

I have watched some of Rodgers All-22. He’s playing amazingly. For contrast I watched some Packers-Vikings. Cousins is atrocious so Rodgers looks absolutely divine in comparison. His play is ridiculous.

That’s a fair point you bring up. We wouldn’t know if he’s playing through an injury. That’s the only legitimate excuse for his play. If he’s not, then it was a terrible signing. The sooner we move on, the better. Just cut our losses.

Agreed. I do think he was miscast here. He’d have been a fit in the offense NE was running, but not ours so much. Right now he would be vying for the 5th spot because Davis would have the 4th. If that’s where you are at this point - especially as a 2nd round pick - then it’s time to move on from that player.

The Ravens lost to the #1 team so it’s pretty defensible. Okay, they got spanked at home by KC. But still. And rankings don’t mean a thing. Just win.

I’m not sure why the vast majority of NFL KOs aren’t through the end zone. Unless there is a special circumstance I just don’t see the benefits outweighing the negatives. In today’s NFL starting a team on the 15 versus the 25 is pretty meaningless, fumbles are very rare and a big return is a huge momentum swing. Possibly. It depends on what he was told to do. I think a lot of teams outsmart themselves and get too cute with kickoffs.

I’ve got Game Pass and I’ll watch a lot of games on condensed or coaches film (all 22). The condensed is great because it eliminates the banter from between the whistle and snap. Plus you wan watch a whole game in 40 minutes or so. The all 22 has no sound. It’s serene. Usually about 90 minutes and you see every play twice (different camera angles). Put on music, talk about the game with a friend or just watch in peaceful silence. Either is so much better than the regular broadcast. I watch regular broadcasts live on Sunday, but usually watch other games in those formats during the week even if MNF or TNF are on live.

Not for nothing, but it really is. If we were 2-2 I’d be pissed off if Allen was fine with it. I’d want him to be angry about those two losses. I don’t love Carr as a QB, but that’s the right attitude.

I get why some people don’t want to hear that, or have their kids hear it. But I’d watch games hearing only the field sounds every game if I could. No fan noise, no announcers - just audibles, line calls, defensive adjustments and expletive infused trash talking. Bliss.

Or maybe now that Allen has improved as a passer (and mad props to him for that), Daboll doesn’t need him to run as much in order to be successful. If Allen keeps this up 🤞Daboll is going to be a serious HC candidate this offseason.

When Bass made the tackle I literally said “I guess that makes up for the extra point he just missed.” It really shows why a player can never hang his head and worry about a past play. He’s got to shake it off and be fully ready for the next one.

So sorry. It’s a tough day for sure.

Yup. The real scouts knew who Allen was. He was as exceptionally talented as he was raw as a prospect. The odds of QB prospects like that working out are low, but they aren’t zero. And I have harped on this before - rarely are they as raw as Allen was. Drafting him was a reasonable risk considering his position and his upside. I doubt I’d have had the guts to take a risk on him at 7 (though I wouldn’t have had all of the information that NFL teams get), but it sure looks good right now.

CB in round one, TE in round two is my hope. CB is always a need and we could use another stud. Plus the really good ones are very expensive on the FA market. TE is just a need and not many good ones make it to FA. We all saw what Hooper got because he was basically it in FA.