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KC’s defensive penalties really kept us in this one. If the DBs (Breeland in particular) hadn’t committed so many PI, def holding and hands to the face penalties, then things would have been a lot worse.

I’d be hard pressed to name a single Bills DL player that has consistently performed well - or even decently - this season. McD would’ve been justified in benching any of them. KC was missing three OL starters in this game after Schwartz was injured early on. It was an awful performance against 60% backups.

Anyone else find it particularly odd that a team allegedly would be trying to trade the third overall pick less than a year and a half into his career? For a second round pick? That move is known as a “Rosen” I believe. Something is up. Either this dude is coasting and partying now that he got paid or he hates the crap show that is the coaching staff and general atmosphere of the Jest so much that he’s trying to get out and into a better situation.

Agreed. People know his name and that he was a great player. Plus most are down on everyone on the Bills defense right now. Kerrigan is a role player now. He’s not even starting for Washington.

What’s so concerning to me is that this is the third season of this defense. They should be tight and humming along. Getting beat happens, the other team is getting paid too and we all know that defense is pretty much illegal in the NFL today anyway. But missing assignments and other mental errors - I’m looking particularly hard at our LBs here - is a real problem. The other thing that might be at play here is our offense’s production. Teams didn’t have to open up their offenses against us the last couple seasons. They expected a lower scoring game and could be more conservative. I’ve seen this happen with other teams too. Always beware of a great looking defense if your offense is poor. So I think that part of our problem this season is that our defense wasn’t quite as good as we thought it was. But I don’t think they’re as bad as they looked against the Titans either. There’s definitely work to be done and we are going to have to do it with less money soon. I think we’d all be shocked if Allen either didn’t have his 5th year option picked up or got an extension this offseason. That means one more season of an inexpensive QB and then $30M or so less cap space to work with. Beane has his work cut out for him.

Too many way overpaid average former Panthers. And you can add Star to that list.

Titans are a very well coached team that was well rested. Both teams were missing important players, but the Bills were in a particular bad spot in that regard. The Titans make you stack up the box to play the run and play man on the edges. That’s tough to do with your top 2 corners out. Missing Milano didn’t help the run defense either. Hopefully we get another shot at the Titans in the post season with our secondary healthy.

I thought Epenesa looked like he lost a lot of weight!

Yeah. This guy looks to be a second round bust. The Ravens moved on from him quickly. I guess the Titans aren’t too worried about him taking their playbook to the Jags.

Wow. You don’t see many trades within a division. I wonder if they got a premium.

Let’s not forget that he’s an excellent coach who is very detail oriented and holds his players accountable just like Belichick*. You’d have never known that the Titans has a big layoff before this game. They were ready from play one to the end. * Accountability meaning doing everything you can to win, not worrying about pesky NFL rules that stand in the way.

Allen can be a devastating runner so I’d agree with the OP that the offense needs to call more designed runs and RPOs for Allen but I think I understand why we aren’t. I don’t think you can play scared of things like running your QB so I’m not opposed to doing so, especially with a huge one like Allen. We’ve certainly done it in the past so I don’t think Daboll and McD are opposed either. The injury risk can be mitigated somewhat by limiting the frequency of designed runs in games that are not close and drilling into Allen the importance of almost always sliding to avoid hits - even if it means 4th and 2 instead of 1st and 10. I don’t think that’s it. I think it’s his fumbles when he runs. Coaches know that the turnover differential is a huge differentiating factor in wins and losses. Fumbling also seems to hurt Allen’s focus and confidence and I think the coaches are trying to keep him sharp and confident. I can see the staff coming back to more designed runs in the future, but I think I see their reasons to minimize his running now.

Blaming the loss primarily on the defense is weak. They gave up TD drives of 16, 30, 90, 12, 75 and 18 yards. Three Titans drives started inside the red zone and one at our 30. I’m not saying that the defense shouldn’t have forced some FG attempts or played better, but the offense (and Specials) did them no favors. Oh and let’s not ignore the fact that the offense was only missing Brown while the defense was missing its two starting CBs and Milano while playing against a team that forces defenses to stack the box and play man on the outside. The defense still deserves some blame, but there is a lot to go around.

Especially for RBs. That stat really illustrates the point.

http://Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) Tweeted: In Week 6 of 2017, during a Steelers win against the Chiefs, Leveon Bell had 32 carries for 179 yards and a TD. Antonio Brown had 8 catches for 155 yards and a TD. Imagine the reaction if you’d said at that moment both will be healthy and not on a team exactly three years later…

Correct. Vested veteran released prior to trade deadline. UFA

$28M for 17 games, 863 rushing yards and 500 receiving yards. A glorious waste of money by the Jest.

Dunno, man. I understand a player betting on himself and don’t begrudge them that, or looking to make as much as they can while they can. As for Bell, he’s played in 32 games from 2017 until now and made $40M in that time. He went to the Jets so it was about the money and he’s done well in that regard.

He’s got a $2.5M roster bonus due in two days per Spotrac. That makes this really an odd situation in that mid-season roster bonuses like this are very rare (first I’ve ever seen). They can part ways with him for nothing. I guess they are just seeing if anyone will give them something for him before they release him, which is doubtful.

Don’t we all?

Yes, because that’s all those coaches ever did. Lol. Come on, man. There is so much crap that goes on. And thinking one coach who pulls something like Vrabel did isn’t a good coach because he put his team above the league is pretty laughable. That’s how these guys roll when money like this is on the line. You don’t think he got the most out of his team?

Of course, because none of us could think of any HOF coaches that bent or broke the rules to get an advantage.

The Titans are very well coached. So are the Bills, but no one should ever look past a well coached team.

I can. This is mostly hindsight talking. There were a lot of fans enamored with Metcalf but NFL GMs were not nearly to the same extent. He wasn’t a complete enough prospect for a top 10 pick - and it wasn’t close. That’s why he was a day 2 pick, which is where he belonged. That’s because for every 10 players like him - WRs that are great at some aspects and deficient at others - one works out like him, a few contribute and have nice careers and the rest flame out. I thought that Metcalf might’ve been the pick instead of Ford and I definitely thought he’d be our pick in the 3rd if he lasted that long. I was surprised that as he fell through round two that we didn’t make move up for him. As a prospect he was well worth that, but his flaws and associated risk meant no good GM was touching him close to the top 10.