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Excellent hire. intellectually, I am interested to see what Vrabel can do with a real quarterback. Emotionally, I am not happy that it’ll be in the AFCE.

For instance, Lamar has 5 teammates that are first or second team All Pros and Allen has none. So that’s a difference.

I thought Allen probably should have won it last season and probably Lamar this. But if they want to give it to Jackson last season and Allen this, then that’s fine too. Jackson has better stats, but Allen is doing it all with a lot less.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/nfl/coach-year-odds/ There are the odds. McD fell off recently, but is still 7th. He was higher earlier. I don’t think it’s difficult to make a case that he’s a good coach. But I don’t see any criteria where he is #1 this season.

What’s your rationale for McD being COY? He’s got a top four QB and is a second seed. Seems pretty much what you’d expect. Coaches like Campbell and O’Connell have done more with less. Reid has the AFC 1 seed and best record, tho he lost to McD. Campbell also has a 1 seed. Even coaches like Payton should be in the mix. He’s done very well with what he has had to work with. There’s a number of coaches who can make a case. What’s so special about what McD did this season?

All player salary/compensation recouped from insurance is deducted from the cap the following season. So the cap hit is the same during the given season, but they get the benefit the following one.

Normally a fully guaranteed contract would preclude an injury settlement. But these are not normal times. I actually believe that there is a small chance of a settlement between Watson, the Browns and the insurer. The necessary component is that Watson’s agent would have to be worried that the latest injury could void Watson’s guarantees. Things aren’t there (yet). I can say with confidence that the Browns are very unhappy about Watson not informing them of the injury until his end of season exit interview. He complained of it hurting at that time and the team had their doctors look at it. They determined that he had re-torn it. While him apparently hiding it from the team is very suspicious, it doesn’t mean that they can prove he did it outside of team approved rehab. If the Browns and insurer can get out of paying him, they’ll do it. If Watson can get his money, he’ll take it. But if all parties are worried they might lose or that it’ll take years to resolve, then a settlement could happen.

It will lower the overall cap liability for the team. It was set to be $230M total. It gets lowered by every dollar that Insurance pays off on. Even if the insurer pays the team $44.3 for 2025 on top of the $13.6 for 2024, then the Browns are still on the hook for $172.1M. That ain’t nothing.

Some additional info. This raises the possibility that Watson may have voided his guarantees. That’d get the Browns and insurance carriers off the hook. Incidentally this case they’d cut him a day into the 2025 season with a a post 6/1 designation.

They’ll cut him at the beginning of the 2026 season with a post 6/1 designation. The only way that doesn’t happen is if insurance reimbursement requires that they keep him on the roster/IR/pup for that season. As he will likely pass a physical before the 2026 season, that’s unlikely. But you never know.

The policy will reimburse the Browns up to $44.3M for the 2025 season. At this point it looks like Watson will be out the entire season so they’ll get the whole amount. The $44.3M will be credited to the 2026 cap. This isn’t good news for the Browns, it’s phenomenally great news for them. Incidentally the policy on the 2024 season insured up to $13.9M of his contract. They get that money and cap space back for 2025.

That’s fine, but I think I covered the reason why that qualifier was misleading.

Do either of you understand how poor a catch rate of 57.4% is in the NFL? Also I didn’t see either of you going back to check and see who else threw some balls to Gabe Davis and what that would do to his numbers. Also I don’t see anyone controlling for QB play. Coleman has Josh freaking Allen throwing him the ball. When judging catch percentage against the league, do you really think that is any a huge help vs what most QBs out there are doing for their receivers? Saying that Coleman is young and has time to improve is one thing. Pretending that his performance this season has been good - or even passable - for an NFL WR or 1st round pick pick is something else.

That is 100% false. Catch percentage is Receptions/Targets. Gabe Davis: 2020: 35 receptions on 62 targets for 56.5% 2021: 35/63=55.6% 2022: 48/93=51.6% 2023: 45/81=55.6% Keon Coleman 2024: 29/57=50.9% All data from ESPN

The problem with the diggs situation was that the Bills signed him to a huge contract extension when he had two full seasons left. article on details. It guaranteed him an additional $70M. Teams can’t do that for a player that already forced his way out of one team. This isn’t new information for NFL execs. Similarly Miami tried to make another problem child happy by handing him more money and guarantees. Thus their current problems with Hill.

Even the Browns overachieved under Belichick. Not much talent on it. No way was that a playoff team, but somehow its defense played surprisingly well and they made it in 1994 and even won a playoff game. I wonder how far back it goes. Parcells?

Stefanski looks like he’ll be staying in Cleveland. Dorsey on the other hand…… Not that I’m advocating for that.

So you started a thread to say you’d like the reigning DPOY, Myles Garrett, but wouldn’t give up even one late first round pick for him? Wow. That’s absurd.

It’s in Orlando now.

The restructure also gave him a signing bonus and reduced his salary to vet minimum so his imminent suspension would not cost him as much in lost game checks. Plus he had the opportunity to make all the money he gave back and then some if he got enough sacks. He just didn’t.

and therein lies the problem. 1.5 sacks this season

I think the Pars will be able to trade #1 overall for a nice haul. Some teams will want Ward that badly and I see 6 teams currently in the top 10 that desperately need a QB.

I think Vrabel is smart and savvy enough to not take the Jest job.

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