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CB Thomas Graham Jr, Oregon

With the 91st pick in the draft the Cleveland Browns select Benjamin St.-Juste, CB, Minnesota @NeverOutNick is on the clock People getting some great values in this round. I love my two third round picks - Josh Palmer and Benjamin St.-Juste. Love Kendrick Green, Tay Gowan, Joe Tyron and some others where they got picked.

And I’m ready with pick #91 if you don’t take him

With the 89th pick in the draft the Cleveland Browns take Josh Palmer, WR, Tennessee. @H2o is on the clock

I’m interested to read what they say about Horn. Can you please post that? TIA

No way to know without seeing how players come off the board. It’s why FOs have to do their homework. Beyond rating players and fits they have to set up possible trades both up and down the board. Then they can be effective on draft weekend. I expect that Beane is set up well.

No, you’re awake It’s crazy how little Oweh did with his amazing physical ability. That roll of the dice rarely works out well for the team drafting him so I have to say I’d be pissed at 30. Talk to me at 61 for a player like that.

I agree. And while I’m still on Team Smokescreen, I’ll play. The only player I can think of that might go this high and would be a fit for the Bills is Alim McNeill, who is a true 1T. He’s PFF’s 54th overall prospect with a second round grade. Notably he’s their second overall IDL behind Barmore. McNeil is a line-of-scrimmage resetter on the nose who could make his presence felt as a pass rusher in time. 30 is definitely higher than I’d want to take him, but I can see a needy team taking him earlier than most expect just due to the lack of top end talent at the position in this draft. I would think that the Bills are unlikely to be that team unless they’ve rated him more highly than that and/or they are doubtful that they will get much out of Star this year and don’t want a replay of 2021 with Oliver at 1T.

Good point

I don’t really see any issue with the value of the trades the Phins made. I thought it was a good move actually - IF they are sticking with Tua. Personally I’d have sat tight and taken Fields at 3, but if that’s not their direction, then the trades make a lot of sense. They’d obviously worked out both trades together and executed them within minutes of each other. They slid from 3rd overall to 6th overall and gave up a 4th for a 5th this year and picked up a 2022 3rd and 2023 1st. And they’ll probably get the same non-QB in the first round this year anyway. At worst it’ll be a blue chip player who was one of their top 3.

Usually I’m a fan of taking the big uglies - and it’s a need especially at 1T - but I don’t like the value there. Not even Barmore, who’s a 3T anyway. I hope some team does reach for him early like that, but I can see him falling.

It’s funny to see so many people on this board massively underrate Mayfield. Three offensive systems in three years and no preseason games or offseason to speak of in 2020 to learn the last one. Early in the season he was awful and it looked bad for him, but by the second half he was ranking among the best in the league. 2021 will be the first time he’s been in the same system two straight seasons and it should give people a good idea of how good he is. I knew it was official that he busted out when he didn’t get a chance from teams like NE or Pittsburgh.

Ooh. Care to share your lox curing method/recipe?

Usual at home: bacon, egg & cheese on an English muffin or scrambled eggs, cheese & salsa (+meat sometimes) in a tortilla. If I’m feeling fancy at home: lox on a toasted whole grain bagel. Smoked salmon, cream cheese, capers and red onion. Maybe some dill if I have it. McDonalds sausage, egg & cheese English muffin if I need to grab fast food. It’s pretty much the only thing from there I’ll eat. Same from Timmy Ho’s except on a whole grain bagel if I want coffee.

That will never get old. That’s Not Funny, That’s Sick was an integral part of my youth.

Sure and I’d have put the Browns on that list as well, but they both seem to have earned their way off of it. The teams I listed can certainly do the same, but as of now they haven’t.

Good choices though I don’t know what’s open these days. I also liked Town Hall when I went there the last time the Bills played in Cleveland. Steve’s Gyros in the West Side Market are excellent. Lots of other great stuff in there too (assuming it’s all open). I always bring a cooler to bring stuff home if I can.

Pretty much any of the perpetually incompetent ones. Jest, Bengals, Jags and Lions top that list. Chargers too, but at least I’d be living in LA. Not sure how I’d feel about the Raiders. I don’t believe in them, but they seem like they could put something together. And Vegas seems nice if you’ve got money. Sure, but I’m assuming one would have feeling beyond that.

I was thinking that Vegas was really high on the total wins for the league overall, but then I remembered that it’s a 17 game season.

I agree wholeheartedly. I’m happy that he can walk away from the game - and I mean that literally. I cringed every time I saw him get hit last season.

If the answer to that question is at all meaningful this season, then some things have gone very, very poorly.

It’s a shallow draft this year. Read an article on that. It broke down the number of prospects who signed with agents, players returning to college including those taking an extra year of eligibility. etc. This is really the year to come out if you’re an UDFA level prospect. I’ll post if I can find. Also there’s an extra bit of uncertainty with many players because of less (or no) film from this season. Edit: found it. It also points out that next year will have a surplus of depth. Trading day 3 picks this year for next is an excellent strategy https://defector.com/this-could-be-the-thinnest-nfl-draft-in-living-memory/

As much as I don’t care about unis I gotta say I like those. It was nice of them to wheel out Burrow for the video.

Wow. Just started watching game film of Oweh. I have no idea how - even with freakish measurables - he can be considered in the first round. I was open to him as an underdeveloped prospect when I was just reading about him, but the people who say he just isn’t good at football aren’t kidding. How someone can do so little with so much raw ability is unbelievable. Whichever team takes him is banking on being able to develop him from ground zero - and that rarely works. Hard pass on a big investment on any player like that.