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Fair on Samuel. He’s mostly played man so his fit in zone is more of a projection. I don’t see why he couldn’t develop those skills though. IMO his floor here would be a damn fine slot CB here. And it’s not like he'd have to development more than Rousseau. Or that his physical skill set is deficient in a way that would prohibit that development (unlike Rousseau). Quite the contrary on both counts. But I’m getting off track. This season’s 30th pick was not the only place to address CB over the last four seasons. Other than White it’s been overlooked at the expense of the DL (and to a lesser degree the LBs). I can’t imagine why Brown would have been sticking out on their board other than just his physical profile. Him and Rousseau seem like bad analytics picks. High level RAS/SPARQ guys that haven’t shown that they are good football players yet.

Yup. Really feeling that this draft is pretty much over for us. It’s a shallow pool due to so many players taking the extra season of eligibility and I always consider 6th and 7th round picks just priority FAs anyway. Maybe we get a guy that falls to us in the fifth but I think it’ll be pretty picked over by then. And there’s a real possibility that it would be a DT. That’ll act be funny even though we could use a 1T in the pipeline.

See above for my thoughts on CB, etc. I’m not advocating a purely need driven drafting strategy so please don’t frame it as such. My main points are simply: 1) that we’ve invested massively in the DL both in terms of cap space and premium draft picks - with not great ROI thus far - and 2) this has been at the expense of other important components of our team. That includes free agency. It doesn’t help that Basham is the only pick I’ve liked so far this year.

A slew of centers were sitting there for us in the third and center is definitely a big need IMO. It’s certainly a bigger one than a potential RT replacement in 2-3 years. I do not love the pick either. He’s a very raw but athletically gifted prospect, but was he really sticking out on their board? I agree on the CB situation. I just don’t get taking two DEs and no CBs. And not just this year. CB has been too much of an afterthought besides Tre for the last 4 seasons. We have no depth now and we’ve only got Wallace and Johnson under contract for this season. CBs get dinged and with three usually on the field I am ill at ease with our situation there.

I get what you’re saying, but life with a $40M QB has to include help at other positions beyond DL. An OT that’s going to be a swing tackle for at least 2 years here in the 3rd isn’t making me feel better either. I am sure that the plan for the future is to drop Rousseau inside on passing downs with Oliver and have Epenesa and Basham on the outside. But where’s the plan for the secondary? Or the WR corps? Or the interior OL? We need help there THIS year. The attention to the DL just seems excessive. So many resources are being poured into it with only limited success so far. Obviously we won’t know about the more recent additions for another year at least. But wow. The Bills DL really needs to be the strength of the defense in a way it hasn’t in order to justify everything.

Also would have been good

That’s be a great pick. Could also see Ty Gowan or Ifeatu Melinfonwu

Was fine with the Basham pick. Would’ve liked Asante Samuel Jr instead of Rousseau though. Two DEs to start this draft though? Ridiculous to see the draft capital and free agent contracts poured into the DL while other needs to unaddressed.

I like Basham at 61 a hell of a lot more than Rousseau at 30. Obviously another DE or DL was not what I wanted to see, but I like the value. The strategy OTOH........

https://youtu.be/mVp_B3k-RtE Above is a 3 minute clip of his workout. The concern is that he took the year off playing to focus on preparing for the draft and NFL, but did not seem to properly prepared for the drills and workout. He scored below the 50th percentile in all of the drills except for the 40 yard dash according to this article.

Thanks, Pat! It was very low key. Just had one neighbor over. Would love to hang out sometime soon though. I miss you!

Other than Allen I don’t think there’s a first round pick on the whole offense - unless you want to count Diggs since we traded one away for him. Still, he was a 5th rounder originally.

I was not comparing him to Shaq as a player. I was comparing the fan reactions to the two picks.

I’m not too excited about the 15.5 sack number. It wasn’t like he got many against quality opponents. Or that the U played many quality opponents. Here is his game log: Schedule I wonder if he will be able to be effective against pro OGs and OTs doing the same things he did in college. I’d think so, but not to the same degree of success. He’s so raw that it’s a big projection and I don’t see much that gives me hope that he is the kind of guy that will put in the work. His lack of prep for his pro day is part of that. Ditto his opt out. I don’t buy the “if he had played in 2020 he’d have been a top 10 pick” line either. Not at all. He just doesn’t have all of the tools for that. His COD is awful (14th percentile) so he won’t ever be able to bend the edge. He also has a pretty pedestrian get off. Players like that aren’t getting into the top 10 very often. He’s a guy that is going to have to win with his length. He’s going to play the edge on run downs and to contain running QBs and he will drop inside to rush the passer. Actually I think he can be a big help anywhere on the DL vs QBs like Lamar. I think that he can have success in the NFL in those roles if he can develop. Honestly, it’s the fawning over the pick and unrealistic expectations by a lot of fans that I am arguing against here more than anything. I get being a fan, but it feels like Shaq Lawson all over again. So many thought he was Mario’s direct replacement and said the same kinds of things about him. I hope Rousseau kills it here and makes me eat my words.

I really think even the college game was passing him by. His offense seemed to be stuck in the last iteration of RO and it was horribly disappointing to see him doggedly stick to it even with Haskins at QB. He was nowhere near a fit for a RO. The Buckeyes probably dodged a bullet with him leaving and getting Day when they did.

Not a huge fan of the pick, but his length is really impressive. If he is successful in the NFL that’s going to be a huge factor. Not only is it useful keeping blockers off of him, it makes his tackle radius huge. I can see a role for him here if his head is on right. I was just hoping for better at 30. I’m really trying to warm up to it. Wait and see I guess.

Notably Calais Campbell also played for Da U. He’s got the back of another U player. Nothing wrong with it, but don’t read too much into it.

I have my opinion, but I’m willing to have it changed.

JOK, Samuel or Campbell

His COD is abysmal. I called him Clowney-light for that reason. He can hold the edge on run downs and for contain on running QBs (Lamar) and rush from the inside on passing downs. He’s just not a guy you can line up on the edge and expect to get to the QB. I’d be more excited if he had a quicker first step. He just seems to lack any real explosiveness which makes me worried about him in the NFL.

A lot of people here seem to be saying this in the last few minutes. It reminds me of what people said about Lawson and how high he should have gone. It wasn’t true for him and it’s not true for Rousseau.

Clowney light. Every time someone on here dissed Clowney I thought “What will they say if we take Rousseau?”

So far Fathead’s Headhunter IPA and Three Floyd’s Zombie Dust IPA. They have been two of my favorites for a long time. Another fave, Bell’s Two Hearted is on deck.

I’m cooking Korean wings, poutine and smoked beef sandwiches with fontina and caramelized onions. A varied array of craft beer too.

Denver is paying $3M for one year of TB. Locke is still on the 3rd year of his four year, $7M rookie deal. Neither of those deals is going to stop Denver from drafting a QB.