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I was not comparing him to Shaq as a player. I was comparing the fan reactions to the two picks.

I’m not too excited about the 15.5 sack number. It wasn’t like he got many against quality opponents. Or that the U played many quality opponents. Here is his game log: Schedule I wonder if he will be able to be effective against pro OGs and OTs doing the same things he did in college. I’d think so, but not to the same degree of success. He’s so raw that it’s a big projection and I don’t see much that gives me hope that he is the kind of guy that will put in the work. His lack of prep for his pro day is part of that. Ditto his opt out. I don’t buy the “if he had played in 2020 he’d have been a top 10 pick” line either. Not at all. He just doesn’t have all of the tools for that. His COD is awful (14th percentile) so he won’t ever be able to bend the edge. He also has a pretty pedestrian get off. Players like that aren’t getting into the top 10 very often. He’s a guy that is going to have to win with his length. He’s going to play the edge on run downs and to contain running QBs and he will drop inside to rush the passer. Actually I think he can be a big help anywhere on the DL vs QBs like Lamar. I think that he can have success in the NFL in those roles if he can develop. Honestly, it’s the fawning over the pick and unrealistic expectations by a lot of fans that I am arguing against here more than anything. I get being a fan, but it feels like Shaq Lawson all over again. So many thought he was Mario’s direct replacement and said the same kinds of things about him. I hope Rousseau kills it here and makes me eat my words.

I really think even the college game was passing him by. His offense seemed to be stuck in the last iteration of RO and it was horribly disappointing to see him doggedly stick to it even with Haskins at QB. He was nowhere near a fit for a RO. The Buckeyes probably dodged a bullet with him leaving and getting Day when they did.

Not a huge fan of the pick, but his length is really impressive. If he is successful in the NFL that’s going to be a huge factor. Not only is it useful keeping blockers off of him, it makes his tackle radius huge. I can see a role for him here if his head is on right. I was just hoping for better at 30. I’m really trying to warm up to it. Wait and see I guess.

Notably Calais Campbell also played for Da U. He’s got the back of another U player. Nothing wrong with it, but don’t read too much into it.

I have my opinion, but I’m willing to have it changed.

JOK, Samuel or Campbell

His COD is abysmal. I called him Clowney-light for that reason. He can hold the edge on run downs and for contain on running QBs (Lamar) and rush from the inside on passing downs. He’s just not a guy you can line up on the edge and expect to get to the QB. I’d be more excited if he had a quicker first step. He just seems to lack any real explosiveness which makes me worried about him in the NFL.

A lot of people here seem to be saying this in the last few minutes. It reminds me of what people said about Lawson and how high he should have gone. It wasn’t true for him and it’s not true for Rousseau.

Clowney light. Every time someone on here dissed Clowney I thought “What will they say if we take Rousseau?”

So far Fathead’s Headhunter IPA and Three Floyd’s Zombie Dust IPA. They have been two of my favorites for a long time. Another fave, Bell’s Two Hearted is on deck.

I’m cooking Korean wings, poutine and smoked beef sandwiches with fontina and caramelized onions. A varied array of craft beer too.

Denver is paying $3M for one year of TB. Locke is still on the 3rd year of his four year, $7M rookie deal. Neither of those deals is going to stop Denver from drafting a QB.

I don’t think it takes them out of the QB market at all. They could just be acquiring Bridgewater to be a, well, bridge QB.

This kind of talk is freaking me out. I just read how Josh beat all the odds in becoming the successful QB he is. THAT never happened with a QB like HIM before. Let’s not tempt fate here with Jackson. While I certainly agree that his style isn’t one that usually has longevity or a lot of playoff wins, let’s not get cockey. And with all due respect, I thought he’d bust quickly, but he really improved as a passer last season. He’s still not where you’d want him to be as a QB, but he has already taken one step forward. Here’s hoping that’s his ceiling.

I thought Fields was clearly a top 2 QB (that I watched) during the season. I didn’t watch Lance or Wilson though - and I haven’t studied them. I’m a lifelong (52 year) Buckeye fan and this isn’t homerism because I haven’t liked a single tOSU QB as a pro prospect before Fields. And I love Fields as a prospect. He is very accurate, his timing is excellent and he can beat you with his legs. His biggest problem has been holding the ball too long at times. Young QBs who are trying to make plays often do that and I think it’s something he will get sorted out. I hope he’s not a Jet or Patriot.

I think we caught lightning in a bottle with Josh. It’s not like the Bills weren’t due a break so I don’t feel the least bit bad about getting a big one. Sure, it’d be great if Motor could take a giant leap too - and it’s not like FAU is a football player factory - but I’d have thought we’d have seen more already. But you never know I guess. It doesn’t hurt to root for him, but I don’t want the Bills to depend on him.

Thanks for that info. I hope it works for him and us.

I agree with all of that. The big difference between Moss and Singletary is that Moss was a rookie with very little offseason and Singletary was in his second. Running the same offense with largely the same personnel he should’ve settled in. So while neither were all that great, I’ll give Moss a second year before I pass judgement. I think that we’ve seen what we’re going to get with Singletary.

Yeah. I didn’t read much of it. The “good guy, works hard, has heart” shtick is nice and all, but really doesn’t matter much when compared to performance on the field. And that’s what’s lacking with Singletary. We can argue about his value on the roster as a backup (he’s easily replaceable IMO), but he’s definitely not the guy I want starting.

Team trading for him would have him under contract for two seasons at $11.5M per year. Still, I agree that no one is giving up a first round pick for him. I don’t know what he’d be worth, but it’s not a first round pick or anything close to that

That’s not a good analogy as the employee in question only has the choice of taking or refusing one specific job with a non-negotiable salary (initially) at one specific company/franchise. If they are transferred (traded) they can’t refuse and find another job in the same industry. And while I’m not crying a river of tears for multimillionaire players (or even those making league minimum), it’s important to remember that the NFL gets to act as a monopoly because of the NFLPA and CBA. Without them, they’d be 32 independent companies and they would have to act as such. That would mean the end of pro football as we all know it. The league and players know that there is a lot more good in it for all of them with the current system than without it so there isn’t anything “unfair” about it all. It’s just part of a trade off that both sides agreed to.

The MLB is an interesting contrast to the NFL as their players union is the strongest of any league while the NFLPA is relatively much weaker. The MLB teams get most of their revenue from local broadcasting and other sources individually, thus the lack of economic parity. It still has some revenue sharing so that the lesser market teams can survive but that’s about it. Overall that brings in more revenue to the league - and therefore to players via salaries - than if they’d have an NFL style system. salaries are further lifted by smaller market teams overspending relative to income when they can “make a run”. It’s unlikely that such a system would work out as well for the NFL though. Their appeal is broader and more people watch more out of market games than in other leagues. If the larger market teams dominated then parity would suffer and viewership would look more like baseball. And if you think QB and star player salaries look huge right now, they’d explode under such a system. But both the NFL and NFLPA know they’ve got a great thing going so the system isn’t changing anytime soon.

As others have already mentioned, it is part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the NFL and NFLPA. The CBA allows for many things that would be illegal in a purely free market business environment. The draft, set rookie salaries, the salary cap limit and floor, roster size limits, league (rather than individual team) broadcasting deals, etc. So players (and owners) get the whole deal when they sign on. Then they get a say in any future negotiations.

Cheatriots find a way to get one of the top 4 QB prospects. Billy B once again labeled a “genius” by talking heads