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So Schoen steps foot into the Giants building, shines up his new General Manager name plate and then ships off Saquon Barkley for Moss a bag of kicking tees? Or something equally as worthless? SMDH. That’s just not happening.

If it’s okay with Tre, then sure

No. The odds of two head coaching candidates being completely even is very remote. So I would choose the best candidate regardless of whether or not another team got a couple picks around #98. And again, stealing away a quality coach from a division opponent would outweigh theme getting those picks.

Well, it wasn’t because he was practicing kicking into a net. Also he didn’t seem to be the only one.

You think that it was difficult to get Bass the play because he warms up with the net when he’s not busy? I’m pretty sure he is used to kicking an XP, then getting the play call for the kickoff. He would not have been warming up between The XP and KO anyway. The issue here is that a play call got made - which he got - and then it got changed - which he didn’t get.

I mean, that would be like a hitter in baseball taking on deck practice swings before stepping up to the plate or a pitcher warming up before an inning or a golfer taking practice swings before a shot or…………..

There are several positions that are needs. But with Wallace a FA and a very strong possibility that Tre won’t be ready to go early in the season, it’s comfortably CB IMO.

They'd get a chance to bring in their own QB. They’re not tied to Jones long term. I expect a Giants tear down anyway.

So you think so highly of a coach that you deem him worthy of being your HC, but you don’t think that taking him away from your rival is worth that team getting pick 99 in the next two drafts? You’re way overthinking this.

Well deserved.

They are just Comp picks, the hiring team does not lose them. So, no, they would never factor into the decision. I’m happy for Daboll. Good dude, excellent coach and he did great things here. He’s earned his shot and I think this is a great fit for him.

I hope the venting helps. We are all getting over it in our own ways. i do agree with the crux of your argument though - coaching at the end lost us that game. And what’s worse on that front is that the one coordinator who didn’t contribute to that coaching debacle is the one that just left. The 2021 Bills were not a team without flaws, but they were a championship caliber team. If we’d have won the KC game I don’t know if we’d have won it all or not, but this team was certainly capable of it. That’s why this one hurt so bad. Up until now the Bills haven’t been good enough to win it all, but this year they were. And we don’t know how many good shots this team will get. Whatever that number was, it’s one less now.

I love Burrow (as a QB) and their WR corps is outstanding. Their RBs are pedestrian and their OL is bad. It was abysmal last season and it got upgraded to poor/below average for 2021. It is bad enough to cost them a game against the Bills or Chefs. It should have cost them the game last week. Their defense is definitely better than most given them credit for. Reader was a very good pick up for them. Pretty solid DL all around. Their LBs aren’t very good, but they have a nice secondary other than Apple, who sucks (and I’m a Buckeye alum). The Bengals are a team that deserved to be in the playoffs this season, but they don’t deserve to make the SB. They aren’t in Buffalo or KC’s class yet.

The fact that we’re talking about the 25th pick makes it tempting. The issues I have are that a) he’s apparently turned into a bit of a diva and headcase and b) he’s in the last year of his rookie contract. Zero chance I give up a first (plus a fourth) without a new contract in place. Then there’s a likely impact with Diggs too. He’s got a contract that underpays him relative to his performance and I doubt he’d be happy being the best WR on the Bills while also being the second best paid one. Also I’d have to be comfortable with him in the locker room. This one is nice to dream about but there are just too many obstacles. The only way I’d see it is if he was forcing his way out of Seattle and wanted to come to Buffalo specifically. Then we’d still need to get contracts for him and Diggs in order.

This year hurt in a way that last year didn’t. Last year KC stomped us pretty handily and then got taken to the woodshed by Brady and the Bucs. Last year was good, but we were not at the level needed to win a SB. This year hurt because we had a very real chance to win it all. Had the KC game ended differently we’d be looking at a home game against the Bengals and then the SB. We’re obviously better than the Bengals and I don’t think that’s close right now. The Rams would have worried me (a lot), but that would have been a winnable game. Also a Rams win over SF isn’t a gummies. The Rams are much more talented, but Shanny is 6-0 against McVay, including a win a few weeks ago. I’d have loved our chances against SF.

It’s the angle of that picture. On that play Rousseau put his hands up because Mahomes was rolling out getting ready to pass. Mahomes adjusted and sidearmed the ball under Rousseau’s arms. Had Rousseau not put his arms up Mahomes simply would’ve thrown the ball over him. Just a fantastic play by Mahomes.

I’m too big a fan of football to not be interested in what happens next. Sure, KC is going to demolish the Bengals. Burrow might get sacked more than last week. But the Rams vs the 49ers is a fascinating matchup. Shanny is the better coach, but McVay has better players, including a big advantage at QB. Xs and Os vs Jimmys and Joes. Same offensive roots in the wide zone, boot leg scheme, but they have gone in different directions with that.

I used to talk to a customer about once a quarter. Once or twice a year for probably five or six years I would get his coworker and I’d ask if my contact was available. He always shot back that line and for some reason it always made me laugh. I talked to so many people and so few jokes it always caught me off guard.

That certainly was the narrative pushed by the team and league.

I’m not getting into a petty snark war with you. You’re wrong about a lot here. I’ll cover some of that and leave it there. You keep talking about the FAs available last year and spending $12.7M on one of them. That’s wrong. Edmunds had his fully guaranteed, $12.7M fifth year option picked up last offseason, but it is not in effect until 2022. That’s when the money will be available to spend. As I said, I only posted the link to players signed in 2021 to show you what the ILB FA market looks like in general. Your statement that the $12.7M would have to be spent in one year is wrong too. Carryover allows for unspent cap to easily be moved forward. (There are also some ways to defer cap hits and spend future space earlier.) There are countless ways to use $12.7M and many of them would be better than on 1 more season of Edmunds. You are correct when you state that FA players would have to agree to a deal with the Bills, but you don’t give a reason why that would be a problem. Good teams rarely have trouble finding FAs at market value. It’s the bad teams that have to overpay for FAs. You’re wrong if you think it would be a problem to find players to agree to contracts here. His salary of $12.7M ranks 7th in AAV for ILBs in 2022. I don’t see him close to the 7th best ILB. In general, it’s not a high paying position except for a handful of difference makers. Edmunds has too many issues with his game to be in that pay range. I’d have been okay if the team had declined his option and signed him to a more reasonable contract. But $12.7M is his floor now. If someone wants to argue that Edmunds is a better player than I think he is (I’m looking at you @Thurman#1), then I’ll just say that I disagree and leave it at that. You are entitled to your opinion. I would point out that there team hasn’t signed him to an extension yet though. Not even a whisper about it. Allen’s deal has been done for some time now so there has been plenty of time and he’d be next in line for one if that’s the direction they wanted to go. Thel lack of an extension for Edmunds and the fact that his option wasn’t picked up until the last minute leads me to believe that the team tried to extend him to a longer term, but lower AAV deal last off-season. He didn’t bite so they picked up the option. That’s just an educated guess, but it makes sense. Now we just have to sit back, watch him play this season and see what the team does.

It seems like a younger, more cost effective player on a longer term deal will be available. Beane can have feelers out on better options, but you never know what’ll happen in FA. The decision on Beasley will probably have to stand on his merits. I have been thinking more about @Hapless Bills Fan’s point - that Beasley looses reps against teams with stickier coverage (or when that’s allowed by refs). If that’s the case, then we should move on and find someone who’s better against that because that’s what you get in the playoffs and prime time games. Refs let a lot go in those games. Beane will have some options in FA and the draft. The other option would be to keep Beasley for the last year of his contract and draft his replacement. Then bring the rookie along behind him and have him earn his playing time. Either option would be fine by me.

That’ll be tough. He’s due a $500k roster bonus on 3/20 and I don’t expect the Bills to be going crazy in the first wave of free agency. The new money due to him in 2022 is $6.07M. That’s certainly not egregious for a starting slot WR. But I wonder why he wasn’t on the field more in the KC game. He only played 30 of 64 offensive snaps. Diggs played 54, Davis 53, McKenzie 17, Sanders 16 and Kumerow 3. Knox played 63! I know Beasley still ranks 3rd among WRs - and 4th among receiving targets - in snap count, but it seems like he should have had more usage in such an important game. It makes me think that the team sees him in decline and that they were limiting his snaps. That makes it more likely that they’ll move on from him this off-season.

I understood your question. I just thought it was a dumb way to think about the situation. There are much better ways to spend $12.7M than on one season of Edmunds. And there are better values at the position. while the FA market at ILB isn’t loaded, it’s not like Edmunds is a good player. Just because some fans have massively overrated him or continue to believe that his potential will be realized someday doesn’t mean it’s true. Reality says otherwise.

It’s Star’s contract. $2.5M of his salary is guaranteed. That, along with other dead money for him, makes it difficult to cut and replace him from a cap standpoint.

Okay, so here’s the LIST of ILBs that signed as FAs last off season. The highest paid one, Kyle Van Noy, signed for 2 years at $6M per year. The next was Jarred Davis who signed a one year, $5.5M contract. There are several who signed for one or two years at $3M/year. And, of course, many who signed for a lot less than that. Edmunds wouldn’t have been a free agent until this off-season though. Those players all signed those deals last offseason. The FO had options for this season. They could have drafted JOK instead of Rousseau at 30 in the last draft. Or they could sign one of the FAs this off-season. Lots of the same names on that LIST. They could also draft someone this year in addition to a low priced FA ILB and use the money saved elsewhere.