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With his size and running style I’d worry about him carrying that big of a workload. I think his workload has been calculated and is in a good place for him.

He’s the Broncos president. I kinda think he’d have had a lot of say in the Wilson move though.

Yeah. I understood your argument the first time. I just stated why it here’s a good chance it’s wrong. But we will have to watch a few seasons of Wilson to find out who got this one right. Just have to wait and see.

I really did not think my point was that difficult to understand. The new contract extension (as understood now) guarantees that Wilson will be a Bronco for at least 4 seasons and that he is near the top of the market in AAV. His play fell off last season and he turns 34 in November. So the big risk is that his play continues to fall off while the Broncos are stuck with him for multiple seasons at a very high salary and cap hit.

Time will tell. Really depends on how much his play falls off while he’s still got big guarantees.

My issue is not with Wilson QBing the Broncos in the near term. That makes sense. My issue is the Broncos tying themselves to him for 4-5 seasons. He’ll be 34 in November and I don’t think he has the physical stature to last that long. I think he can eek out a couple more good years, but he’s already showing signs of falling off. One caveat: we have not seen contract details yet. It might not be quite as bad as it seems.

The Russ of 4 or 5 years ago, sure. But he looks like he’s already started to fall off.

Yeah. I think this contract was pure malfeasance by Elway.

Was wondering if he had offsets. At least we recoup something - probably minimum salary. Let’s hope he sticks on a roster.

Good older team: Gonna have to cycle out some vets for younger players. Bad older teams: Time to blow it up.

Agreed. Plus he might feel that he owes the Titans one after all they have paid him. I sure would.

This. This would be his 15th season, he’s already made $28M and the Titans gave him a $550k signing bonus this off-season.

This happens all the time. I used to live in a suburb of Cleveland where a lot of players and FO people lived. Kids went to the same daycares, schools, pool, etc. Players that bounced around the bottom of the roster and PS were often told this. Doesn’t mean they should wait for that call and turn down another offer, just that they should stay in shape because they might be wanted.

Yeah. That’s realistic. I doubt Tre will be back to 100% this season. He can still round back into very good though. No need to rush him. Healthy for the playoffs is what’s most important.

“Cutout bin”. Damn we’re old. You wrote it and I knew what you meant. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34489670/buffalo-bills-cb-tredavious-white-pup-list-least-first-four-games?platform=amp Important tidbit from these reports: Tre White is out at least 4 games due to starting out on the PUP/reserve list. Edit: Nevermind. There’s a thread

Those guarantees seemed totally unnecessary. That’s the really weird part.

I’d be shocked we got something for Moss. If it’s a real rumor, it’s Beane trying to create a market.

Howard’s contract is already guaranteed. If cut, he counts the same. The only cap space in doubt is $255k total in per game active roster bonuses. If they don’t want him, the Bills would be better off trading him even if they had to eat some salary. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/oj-howard-21760/

Not entirely. It is among the things that point to that.

If that’s what you took away from all of this then I’d say your reading comprehension is as poor as your objectivity.

Dude’s made $60M playing football. I want to be cursed like that. Still, he seems like a good guy. I hope the injury isn’t serious.

Agreed. Also cutting a sixth round punter before final cut down day isn’t exactly season altering move. This was a very, very easy call from an organizational standpoint.

Why focus on that? The whole thing is pretty sketchy

He did get his 2020 contract. His restructure last year was just a salary cap move though. He did not get a raise.

The other player do not care how much Poyer gets paid so much as they care about whether or not the Bills will step up if they outperform their contract. I’m not saying that this is something that will derail the season or anything, but this kind of thing impacts contract negotiations. The only real potential for issues this season is if it impacts Poyer’s play. For example, some players would not want to play through injury and put bad tape out there just prior to hitting FA.