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That would be a big overpay for Metcalf. He’s on the last year of his rookie deal and contract parameters are a major factor in any trade. You’re proposing two firsts for a one year WR rental. See the Diggs trade for better parameters and keep in mind that Diggs is a better WR and was on a long term, very reasonable contract. If we were to trade for him the cost would be less than that and a new contract would have to be agreed upon prior to the trade.

It matters if Allen misses significant time but is able to return. Say Allen goes 8-3 in the games he plays in. If a poor backup we’re to go 1-5 or 2-4 we either would not make the playoffs or sneak in as a low WC with no hope of a home game. Someone that could go 3-3 or 4-2 would put us at 11-6 or 12-5. That’s a big difference. That’s why it’s worth having a capable backup.

You are missing or ignoring my point.

They would have to have a trade partner with a QB they wanted lined up and that partner would have to prefer our picks over Young or Sweat. That scenario is unlikely to say the least.

And here as well. From Stephania Bell, fantasy football analyst: “Josh Allen and the Bills were a possession away from the Super Bowl, and they will be back”

I don’t want players who have an issue with being benched for performance reasons on the Bills.

I absolutely hate the “Well, who is going to replace him?” argument. It’s perfectly acceptable to understand that a player isn’t performing up to an acceptable standard for their position or contract. As for replacements in general there’s not much to be said until free agency and the draft anyway. Since Edmunds is here for the 2022 season we’re pretty much down to the draft - and non-premium picks at that - for his long term replacement. I could see them adding a player like Quay Walker or Chad Muma to be his backup this season and develop as a potential replacement for next. I will be extremely disappointed if Beane does not find someone to fill that role. Even if his preference is to sign Edmunds long term, he has to have a contingency plan in case his contract demands are too steep.

Guessing the Chiefs and/or NFL saw to that. Regardless of its veracity of its facts or conclusions, it was not flattering. No way do they want something like this getting wide spread exposure. Gotta protect the shield.

No chance. Not with John Edmund Mulaney in the house.

I don’t disagree. I just wanted to add some detail and context to the discussion.

I have heard that too but I don’t know how that’s possible. He wasn’t practicing at the net before the KO, he was kicking the PAT. It’s not like he hasn’t kicked a PAT then got the following KO call dozens of times.

The way I understand the situation is that he was told to kick it through the end zone, then the coaches changed the call. He didn’t get the changed call. So the kicker was just doing what he was told to do.

I think Allen and Bills made a fair deal. He still had a fourth rookie year and a $23M fifth year option when it got signed. They got rolled up with his extension. It’s complicated, but the additional 5 seasons pay works out to $47M per year. The deal keeps him here through 2028. $47M AAV is a bit high for today, but it is a good approximation of fair market value in 2023 when the new seasons kick in. Also the new broadcasting deals start in 2023 so considering those it actually might be below market. But Allen got a chunk of money early and some real security through guarantees. It was a win-win IMO.

It’s a percentage of revenue. The value of an NFL franchise has skyrocketed too. They’re talking $5B for the Broncos.

You misunderstand me. I am not saying that at all. I guess I wasn’t clear. Football used to be a game played by big, tough men. Then it grew into a game played by physical freaks. Advances in fitness and nutrition (and pharmaceuticals) coupled with the economics involved led to what we have today. The physical damage done by NFL players to each other has necessitated changes in the game. The combination of those very prudent rule changes along with the still very brutal game are both reasons I like it a lot less than I used to. Also maybe because I’m older I know what that punishment leads to down the road.

Yup. I absolutely love football, but the mess the NFL has become only slightly resembles it. With the money now involved and knowing what we know about CTE I doubt we will ever see the game I loved again. Those who love the current iteration are welcome to it.

The Rams are definitely mortgaging their future. The way they spent picks and cap space to upgrade their roster is going to hurt them. It was worth it because they won it all. But there was no guarantee at the time that it would work. They just tried to improve their odds a little bit while they were still in their window. They can probably hold it together a little longer too if they want to. I am good with the Bills being aggressive though. Just not screwing up future seasons aggressive.

Yes, the Rams had done well leading up to their last push. As I mentioned, pushing hard at the end of a team’s window is typical. The Rams are near the end of their window, the Bills are not. Ask me again in 7 or 8 years and I’ll say “yes, we should mortgage the future and try to win it all (again) before Allen retires.” And let’s be clear about two things: 1) I have no issue with the bills being aggressive in a targeted manner. There is a difference between the kind of aggressive that cripples a team in the future and the kind that is part of sustainable team building. 2) The Rams won it all for a lot of reasons. One was their aggression in building their team. Another was that they drafted Aaron Donald. Another was luck. SF dropped an easy INT or they aren’t even in the SB, Cincy was one play away from beating them and then there’s the luck of playing the Bengals rather than the Bills or Chiefs. Heck, just being in the NFC is much better than being in the AFC these days. So there’s no guarantee that trying to get over the top by making moves like trading a 2nd and 3rd for one season of a player like Von Miller is going to make the difference. My main point is that the Bills have too many competitive seasons ahead to hinder themselves in future seasons to make expensive, marginal improvements for one or two seasons.

Looks like a huge nothingburger here. The way I’m reading this is that Tua asked Flores if the rumors that the team was trying to trade for Watson were true and he told him that they were. Okay. Not exactly a damning interaction. I think we all know that was the was truth. The upshot to Tua was that he needed to step it up or he was going to get replaced. Again. Duh.

Sometimes when a person feels that they’ve outgrown their role and they don’t have the authority to run things they way they see fit, it can become frustrating. They see people with that authority make what they consider mistakes and they become unhappy. It’s time for them to move on and give it a shot. Sometimes it works out for them and sometimes it doesn’t. Seems like that might be what happened here. Someone alluded to this being discussed in an Athletic article. If anyone with a subscription can shed some light, I’d appreciate it.

It’s not time for the Bills to do something like this. I’m not saying that they shouldn’t make a move if they think they need to. But they have a window that’ll be open a long time. No need to screw things up for a few seasons for one shot.

It’s what a lot of teams do when their window is closing. The Rams needed some pieces, including a QB. They pushed in. New Orleans pushed in at then end of Brees’ career and Philadelphia did it when their roster was aging and they were coming off a SB win. It didn’t work out well for either. Those two teams are dealing with the aftermath now and the Rams will be soon. It’s easier to handle the rebuilding years if your team wins it all, but there’s no guarantee. The ugly rebuilding years are the price of trying.

This it true. I actually like some of that stuff. Some bluegrass too. Country music today isn’t just bad on its surface and in its soul, it also came at the expense of destroying the music you are talking about, which was superior in a lot of ways. Too bad it is all but gone.

I vehemently hate country music. This show was quintessentially California and it was good. My only real complaint is that the sound work could’ve been better.

Wow. He was the 32nd person to come forward and file accusations. You would’ve thought there’d be more out there about this.