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Agreed. Plus he might feel that he owes the Titans one after all they have paid him. I sure would.

This. This would be his 15th season, he’s already made $28M and the Titans gave him a $550k signing bonus this off-season.

This happens all the time. I used to live in a suburb of Cleveland where a lot of players and FO people lived. Kids went to the same daycares, schools, pool, etc. Players that bounced around the bottom of the roster and PS were often told this. Doesn’t mean they should wait for that call and turn down another offer, just that they should stay in shape because they might be wanted.

Yeah. That’s realistic. I doubt Tre will be back to 100% this season. He can still round back into very good though. No need to rush him. Healthy for the playoffs is what’s most important.

“Cutout bin”. Damn we’re old. You wrote it and I knew what you meant. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34489670/buffalo-bills-cb-tredavious-white-pup-list-least-first-four-games?platform=amp Important tidbit from these reports: Tre White is out at least 4 games due to starting out on the PUP/reserve list. Edit: Nevermind. There’s a thread

Those guarantees seemed totally unnecessary. That’s the really weird part.

I’d be shocked we got something for Moss. If it’s a real rumor, it’s Beane trying to create a market.

Howard’s contract is already guaranteed. If cut, he counts the same. The only cap space in doubt is $255k total in per game active roster bonuses. If they don’t want him, the Bills would be better off trading him even if they had to eat some salary. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/oj-howard-21760/

Not entirely. It is among the things that point to that.

If that’s what you took away from all of this then I’d say your reading comprehension is as poor as your objectivity.

Dude’s made $60M playing football. I want to be cursed like that. Still, he seems like a good guy. I hope the injury isn’t serious.

Agreed. Also cutting a sixth round punter before final cut down day isn’t exactly season altering move. This was a very, very easy call from an organizational standpoint.

Why focus on that? The whole thing is pretty sketchy

He did get his 2020 contract. His restructure last year was just a salary cap move though. He did not get a raise.

The other player do not care how much Poyer gets paid so much as they care about whether or not the Bills will step up if they outperform their contract. I’m not saying that this is something that will derail the season or anything, but this kind of thing impacts contract negotiations. The only real potential for issues this season is if it impacts Poyer’s play. For example, some players would not want to play through injury and put bad tape out there just prior to hitting FA.

No kidding. It is more that he gave an already drunk 17 year old more beer and then had sex with her. That’s not just statuary rape, that’s rape. Oh and he did so knowing that he had chlamydia. That’s all before he - or possibly someone else - took her inside and upstairs to a bedroom to be gang raped. Weird that someone else could’ve taken her to the room though. what would’ve had to happen was that Araiza met this girls, had sex with her and then just walked away as soon as he was done. Just went to hang out with some other people or something. That’d be very odd.

Players do notice whether or not a team pays players that have earned it. That definitely matters to them and their agents and it impacts contracts and negotiations. Poyer has earned it. He should get paid accordingly.

Sure. That’s obviously the worst of it. There’s plenty of other bad stuff too. Might want to take off the royal blue colored glasses for a sec.

Tip of the iceberg and all. Also depends on context. A 21 year old guy handing a beer to a 17 or 18 year old girl who’s already drunk might just have some ulterior motives.

Lol. Yeah, no college aged guy could ever see that one coming. Some HS kid lying about her age. Also even if she did tell him she was 18 (crazy how some fellow SDSU football players remember that little detail) and he got her a beer (that wasn’t laced with anything), then that’s still a crime. Best case scenario for Araiza is that he’s guilty of some very bad things. Worst case, he’s guilty of some truly horrifying crimes. I’m happy he’s gone from Buffalo.

His emotional state could certainly have been a reason to sit him. And I’m also sure that a person would be upset about what has come out publicly regardless of their guilt or innocence.

The Bills may have just been kicking the can down the road by keeping Araiza out of the last preseason game, but one reason to do that is to prevent injury. Teams can’t release a player with a football related injury unless an injury settlement is first reached.

No, the exempt list is not an option for that reason.

I’ve explained the stupidity of the shakedown angle. I can explain it to you again, but I can’t understand it for you. One last time: A 17 year old accused a college punter of rape long before that punter made it to the NFL and had any money to be shaken down for. There is also the fact that by making her accusation she was likely to inhibit the accused from making it to the NFL at all. Plus even if a punter does make it, they we are at best a late round pick. The signing bonus of which is a couple hundred grand before taxes. It’s idiotic to think this is a shakedown.

Just to be clear, it’s not plausible. Araiza wasn’t in a position to be shaken down for money when the girl accused him. He was a college punter. His best option months down the road was being a late round NFL draft pick - which doesn’t even come with that huge of a payday. But her accusation could have prevented even that. It’s not like he was some sure fire first round QB like an Andrew Luck. He was a college punter when accused. So, no, it’s not plausible. You’d have to throw logic out the window to think it was.