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I looked at the layout of Hopkins. They have 3 runways - a 10k ft, a 9k and a 6k. The 9 & 10 are perpendicular to where the stadium will be so no issues. The 6k is directly in line though.

Haslam has already agreed to foot the bill for cost overruns.

Let’s hope that strip gets revitalized too. It’s a rough area.

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/a-letter-to-cleveland-browns-fans-across-northeast-ohio-and-beyond Article and 3 min video of proposed stadium and surrounding development. Article discusses financing. It’s freaking beautiful. I would note that the area is currently the rotting shells of auto plants. The impact of this on Cleveland would be tremendous.

Jimmy Haslam wants a Jimmy World like Jerry Jones has his Jerry World. He’s putting a ridiculous amount of money up for it so it’s going to happen. It will also allow the Browns to expand their practice facilities, which they currently can’t because they are land locked.

That would be fair.

I think this lends credence to Aiyuk going to the Patriots. If I were the Browns I’d sure leak something like this if I knew I didn’t get him. Edit: Their feed also gives better odds to the Patriots and states that they are offering more money.

I think that of the teams involved, the Patriots would have to offer him the biggest contract to go there. As for the Steelers, the last I heard was that they didn’t meet SF’s price.

If accurate, he took the bag.

My statement addressed his words and their context.

It would be a long term play by the Browns. Aiyuk is 26 and would have a long term deal in place. Cooper is 30 and will be a FA after this season.

If that’s your term for misogyny……..

Good question. I’d love to know what the deals look like. It’ll be a WR plus additional player and/or draft pick compensation. SF can’t just take picks if they want to compete for a SB this season. They need someone to replace Aiyuk to some degree. That likely would be Amari Cooper from Cleveland as I doubt Moore moves the needle for them. The Patriots would probably include former 9er, Kendrick Bourne. I don’t see another realistic option there. So much on the pick side will be determined by what WR goes back to SF. Also there’s the money angle. Cleveland just reworked Cooper’s contract so they might want SF to do the same for Aiyuk so they offset. Or they could lower the pick comp.

Hate is a strong word. As a person, one should be judged on their character. If someone show themselves to be of poor character, then they should be viewed accordingly.

Looks like something will finally pop with Aiyuk. SF finally seems motivated to make it happen. https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/brandon-aiyuk-trade-cleveland-browns-new-england-patriots/1765964/ Source: 49ers have Aiyuk trade framework with Browns, Patriots

When I lived in Columbus a tornado went through a friend’s neighborhood. Two houses had minor damage. The one between them was gone. One of the craziest things I ever saw.

Not accurate with KC. They lost their following game two of the three times they beat us in the playoffs. So the league handled them. In fact KC’s SB win this past season was the only exception. The other five times the team that beat us in the playoffs lost their next game. But you’re hopeful that McDermott will improve. I do too. We seem to be stuck with him so what’s the other choice? I’ve seen enough that I’d have gina another way. You haven’t. That’s cool. I hope you’re right.

Save the woulda coulda stuff. I give credit for what got accomplished, not what people believe (or wish) could’ve been accomplished. As for the Cincy game, the team had been through a lot, but things were mismanaged too. Cincy was not happy that the Bills used Damar as motivation. They were there too and they also supported him and the decision to end the game. The tactic backfired on the Bills and that falls at the feet of McDermott. The Bills blew an 18 point second half lead against the Texans so I’m not buying that we weren’t in their class. Sorry.

I largely agree with this. The one point I disagree with is that it’s a KC problem. They just happened to be the high quality team we played 3 times. As you said, we falter against elite teams with premier QBs. Collection of slots is for 2024. The pocket time stat shows that Allen and the offense is getting the ball out fast. my point was that this helps the OL’s pass blocking.

Allen had a Pocket time of 2.3 seconds, which ties him for 5th in the league. Tua had the shortest at 2.1 sec. The Bills primarily collected slot WRs for this season. Seems to fit. Sort by Pocket Time under Pressure stats

The counter to this is, of course, that some others seem to think that the McDermott Bills never need to win a SB. That fans should be thrilled with them being a very good team even if they can’t get it done in the playoffs against another good team. That that is the gold standard we should all be ecstatic with. Both, of course, are utterly ridiculous. They’re just underhanded tactics used by people trying to frame someone else’s opinion as unreasonable. Most reasonable fans realize that with one of the top QBs in the league that a team should win at least one SB, but that winning in any single year is not a given. Then it becomes a “body of work” discussion. My issue with McDermott - beyond his horrific 13 second gaffes - is his playoff record against quality teams. He’s 5-0 against 4-7 seeds and 0-6 against 1-4 seeds. I’m not sure how that is acceptable with Josh Allen at QB. (Note that he is 0-5 against 1-4 seeds with Allen.) Other than blind luck, I’m not sure why anyone expects an improvement over that.

One aspect that has been overlooked when discussing the OL is that the offense has been geared toward getting the ball out of Allen’s hand quickly (in general). That has helped the OL’s pass blocking greatly. With this group of WRs and TEs I have to think that continues.

Crap. Good catch on my math. I’ll run the numbers again and post the transactions. The Browns have a K under contract, DTR is likely the backup QB next season and getting a premier WR entering his prime like Aiyuk under a long term contract would be far more important than re-signing any LB - even one as outstanding as JOK. https://overthecap.com/calculator/cleveland-browns I used this calculator. Additional cap space could be made with more restructures and by adding void years. I did simple restructures though many utilized existing void years. The link resets the calculator so here is what I’ve done. Remember that the Browns have been very aggressive in restructuring almost every dollar: - Cooper trade in 2024 - Bitonio retires and is a post 6/1 cut in 2025 - Simple restructures for Watson, Garrett, Ward, Teller, Conklin, Njoku, Tomlinson, Smith, Jeudy, Okoronkwo, Thornhill and Pocic. - This yields cap space of $30.9M in 2024 and $32.8M in 2025. Plenty to sign Aiyuk, JOK and make other moves.

Firstly, the Browns have been reported to have another on the table for over $30M AAV. I have not heard of what the trade compensation would be though. As for the cap, it is very manageable. As of now the Browns are rolling over $29.7M and are $59.8M over in 2025. That nets out to $30.1M over in 2025. The Browns will obviously use more space in 2024, but it’s very manageable as it stands. If Cooper is traded away then the only impact on the Browns cap is that they immediately acquire $1.2M in space. 2025 stays the same. Let’s use Amon St. Brown’s $30.2M AAV deal as a guide for Aiyuk. His cap hit in 2024 is $4.9M and $13.9M in 2025. That is manageable for the Browns. The Browns do want to extend JOK, but not Wills. Also as for void years, five years is the max for signing bonus proration so they’d only need one if it’s a four year deal. OTC has a cap calculator here if you want to play with how the Browns can get back under the cap.

They are utilizing the same model as Philadelphia. They are pushing out nearly every cap dollar they can. The system is calibrated to be sustainable. The estimates I saw was that teams doing this can outspend teams with a more cash-to-cap structure by 15-18%. While this provides a cushion these teams still have to be smart about whom they pay. It’s what makes me think a Cooper plus pick for Aiyuk is something Cleveland would be in on as long as the pick compensation was reasonable.