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Players could not execute today. Nothing to do with coaching. We had multiple, multiple opportunities to win this game. Milano drops a pick 6, Gabe Davis drops a TD, Allen skips a pass to a wide open McKenzie which would've been a TD, Bass misses a field goal... that's 24 points right there. And if that's not enough McKenzie for some reason decides to stay in bounds with no time outs left which would've set up a game winning field goal chance. Not sure how all that equates to "coaching."

I mean you watch your receiver stay in bounds with an opportunity to get out...

He's made some splash plays but his play in the run game is why Beane has not extended him a contract offer. Just is what it is at this point. With his athletic ability he should be dominant in both phases of the game at this point in his career. Like I said in the chat, plays in the backfield should be more common, because he has the ability. It's the reads that he struggles to make. Henry's touchdown run is something you'd like to see him diagnose and at least be near the ball, not patting his lineman on the back. His overall play is still average and he's going to need a whole season of good games.

A fumbled snap and botched hold from losing to USF. Richardson looked like complete garbage again. The pressure of being labeled a top pick in the draft has clearly broken him mentally. I'm anticipating a shelacking by Tennessee and a QB change when Miller is healthy. Naipier needs to recognize Johnson and ETN are the two best offensive players we have and lean heavily into the run game.

3rd down and the red zone is really where you figure out what what kind of player you have at the QB position. The scheme can be successful, certainly. I just don't see Tua making the kind of elite throws you see Mahomes, Allen, Herbert or Burrow making. That leaves a team like the Phins on the outside looking in.

Watched a couple third downs from that game. One Tua threw for 5 yards on 3rd and 11, the other he air balled it to no one. There was another longer passing play where he skipped the ball about 6 yards short of the receiver. His receivers make some great plays after the catch.

Here's hoping AR15 can pull his head out of his ass and make some plays this week. Really hate losing to Kentucky.

Makes perfect sense with NIL deals, etc. Little cash goes a long way to pull better players. Transfer portal helps also. Good player sitting on a bench somewhere can end up starting for a different school he may not have considered coming out of high school.

Not sure who this is for but I'm speaking of play calling, not design. The strategy and tempo is all being handled by Ken. There are only so many plays so I don't think modern OCs can be given credit for actual play design, everything is derivative in a 100+ year old sport.

It was "too soon" hot take. But I mean, all through preseason and then into last night the play calling just looked different. Way more screens, shorter routes. I think the difference is that Ken seems to build up to shot plays. Gets the defense in close, spreads them out horizontally and makes them respect the edges. The big play to Davis where the Rams incorrectly guessed short pass and brought pressure was built up to. Gave Allen an extremely favorable look and we know the results. Allen's completion percentage speaks to this. He was being given high percentage throws all night.

Was getting mocked in the shoutbox but I still think Ken is a big improvement over Dabol from a play calling standpoint. I guess we will see what it looks like in more adverse situations to pass final judgement but it just seemed like more of a pro offense. More screens, runs on first down. Just made more sense. No whacky gadget plays.

Phillips is a great pass rushing DT. I don't know about being better than Oliver but I know one thing, I was definitely right when I said it was dumb for Beane to let him go originally.

These threads are fun. Just FYI, if you actually watched the game last night, you'd have seen Elam in on obvious passing situations. The concerns with Elam are in the run game. Once we were up 14, Elam was on the field more and more. Taron was also out there, Jackson was out there. Coverage by committee.

He got treated as the starter, as did Singletary and Moss. All 3 will play roles in this offense this season so not sure why it's surprising to see little of any of them. It's no secret the coaching staff wants all 3 healthy entering week 1.

One of the most embarassing things I've seen in a football game. I think the players can kind of sense when their coach has no idea what he's doing and a call like that solidifies it.

I'm just wondering how Blackshear and Hodgins AREN'T on the team. Remember when Beane and McDermott almost made this mistake with Gabriel Davis? I understand the running back position is undervalued but in this offense, having a stable of wide receivers who can get it done in the event something terrible happens you'd think would take priority. Hopefully he catches on somewhere else, not in our division.

A manogram is an important yearly checkup at Sandusky's age.

I wasn't implying he is often injured, I was illustrating that in year like this, where it's Super Bowl or bust, you don't want John DiGorggio out there if the worst was to happen to Edmunds. Depth is extremely important in a 20 game season.

He's gonna need a bigger locker.

Elam looked great to me. His natural ability is not something you can coach. As a Gator fan, I can tell you he comes from one of the worst defensive coaching staffs in all of college football and achieved on natural ability alone. If coach can mold him, he will be a great one in the NFL.

Considering the Bills have not extended Edmunds, I find the LB competition to be the most intriguing aspect of this camp and preseason. Can you make the argument that the defense is worse off without Edmunds on the field? His rookie contract, paying out 3.5 mil a season up until this point, was seen as a great value. Will Beane be willing to pay him $15 - $20 mil a season for the same performance? Spector, Bernard, Giles-Harris, all played well yesterday, all had an impact on the game. A lot of it is most likely attributed to the dominance of the front 4, but they still had to take advantage of their opportunities. Spector looked great in the run game. His movement and gap integrity looked veteran-esque at times. His understanding of the coverages however, seemed to be about what you'd expect from a rookie. Bernard is continuously around the football. That kind of dedication payed off with the scoop and score. And Giles-Harris had a couple of great plays in coverage, the main one being the 3rd down pass breakup that forced the Colts to punt. Does Beane or McDermott view any of these guys as a "replacement" for Edmunds? No. But are they looking at the next man or men up in the event that they decide Edmunds isn't worth the asking price he will most likely command in the offseason? Absolutely. And aside from that, Milano and Edmunds have both gone down with injuries in the past. Having the depth to back them up is important. You do not want a steep decline in performance if one of them goes out. Giles-Harris certainly made his case to sit behind Milano yesterday but the spot behind Edmunds remains a question mark. Matakevich has it by default, we'll see if Spector can impress enough to make Beane consider moving on from the vet and clear some cap space.

I'm not arguing for Johnny, just that some women think they can do no wrong just because they happen to possess a *****.

Just another psycho broad leveraging the fact that she's a woman so how could she possibly be in the wrong?

Bottom line is the kid is electric in the open field. He's not going to be the workhorse back. But on these sweeps and screens, he will be a huge step up from Moss/Singletary. If I were Dorsey I'd be designing a lot of plays out of a two back set. A nice extra wrinkle for the offense to have Singletary and Cook on the field where you can run or pass with either Cook out of the backfield, motion him out, hand off to Singletary, etc. I think what is lost on our fan base is how predictable Dabol's playcalling was at times. A lot of that had to do with we have some one trick ponies on offense. That's the biggest reason Beane has tried to get some players that are more versatile.

It has nothing to do with his talent and everything to do with what Cleveland expects to get in return for him. Getting Watson was literally the dumbest move you could make as a front office. There is now way to predict how long he could end up suspended for. It could be games. It could be seasons. Hell, it could be indefinitely. So the Browns have to approach trade offers as they are trading their starting QB. Because they are, most likely.