Luka

I think the talk about Peterman in his last pre season performance was telling of how he's viewed by some of the veterans on this team. How they were impressed, how the they think he's a great leader. And those last couple drives are only fuel to that fire. The team quit today because it's a lost cause in it's current state. You can't expect the defense to hold every team to 3 points. The offense has to answer once in awhile and they can't. And it's not even like they try to answer. 3rd and 13 and you're checking down to a 260lb fullback? Down multiple scores? I don't care how good you are as a unit, when you're on the field for 45 minutes out of 60, it's going to be a bad day. That's entirely too many opportunities for the opposing side. Most teams, when facing a high powered offense like the Saints, try to play ball control offense.

At what point does anyone think this guy played well today? How insane do you have to be to convince yourself Tyrod did anything productive? He's bad because he can't capitalize on situations. He's bad because he never gives the receiver a chance to make a play. He's bad because he has awful situational awareness. He's bad because he is unwilling to take shots as the team continues to fall behind on the scoreboard.

McDermott needs to make the change because he's lost the team. I don't think any of the players are under this illusion that Tyrod is the answer at QB. Too many times he has receivers open and he can't hit them. The sequence in the red zone with Benjamin proved that Tyrod doesn't have it. And then to not throw to him the rest of the game? McDermott needs to just admit to himself that this Tyrod thing, it's over. It's almost 3 seasons now of inept QB play.

People can't math.

I'm not reduced to anything. I guess when I have time I'll look into it more. A couple of those runs could be included in that 20+ yard plays too their slick. Reason why it's important. Keep derpin.

Did you include his 44 rush attempts? Those are technically drop backs where he didn't throw the ball, give or take maybe one or two designed runs. So I got .0875. Should always include rush attempts because alot of those are sacks or runs. That's why stats don't always tell the whole story because you have to include all the stats.

Hatred? Maybe they just like a different player? lol Anyways I'm not going down this rabbit hole I just see the word racist pop too often in cases where neither side has a compelling argument.

Absolutley. And I don't see where people come up with this whole "he has no time" argument, he isn't in the top 10 of sacks taken, he's mobile so he can certainly create more time if he needs it and I think that's partially to blame for what you and I both see. His development at reading defenses is stunted because in the back of his mind he's aware what an amazing athlete he is. He knows that he can escape if he has to so there was never that urgency that causes you to speed up the read. It also causes him to doubt a throw because he can also run if he needs to and it's a question he asks himself just as a guy comes open. I can't really recall a play that the ball comes out at the top of his drop or at the crest of a bootleg just as he gets outside the pocket. I think this year is the worst for me because he is trying to reel in his running. That's a bad idea, because it's ingrained in his play and if his mind says run he should run. A good analogy for this is like when the NFL tried to change Tebow's throwing motion because it didn't look "NFL." Either let the guy play or get a different guy that fits what your vision of a QB is supposed to be.

I miss the old days of Trent and JP when you could point out their flaws and not have to deal with SJWs flipping out, calling people racists. No one is saying he can't throw an accurate pass because he's black, they're just saying it because it's true. 28th in YPC, 29th in yards per game. That just isn't something you want to see out of your franchise QB. When he ran more it was understandable but this is pocket passer Tyrod. 20+ yard plays, 21, 40+ yard plays, 3. So while the prior two years he had more explosive plays, we aren't seeing that as much this year. Crappy system? Maybe. Crappy ball placement not allowing for YAC? Definitely. You can use all sorts of stats to make him look great but the ones that make him look like what he is (average) are all typically ignored here. And I don't see him as being overly careful with the football, he's had a couple dropped picks, it's just that he isn't accurate enough to take the shots a good QB does so we're in this stagnant short passing game with no real threat of passing over about 10 yards down the field. My hope here is that it really is the receivers and Kelvin Benjamin is the solution. Only time will tell.

It's also odd that a QB misses a receiver to lose a game and he doesn't get credit for that...

Thompson, McCoy, Clay (who's hurt currently), Thomas, Jones, Holmes. I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't actually watch football. I mean Tyrod forced Holmes to make a tip toe sideline catch... when he was WIDE OPEN. Completely uncontested. If the ball was thrown properly, much like the Carolina game, that's a touchdown. Just watch the way receivers have to catch the ball, even when the ball is complete, and then watch a Chiefs game, or Brady, or Rodgers or any of the guys considered franchise QBs. I mean, Green Bay is proof that Rodgers isn't working with the best receivers in the game, he MAKES them good with precise passing.

Yea Zay wasn't aware of how terrible of a pass was going to be coming his way lol I'm glad we're winning but Tyrod has some of the worst ball placement of any starting QB in the league. We have some great athletes on this team and if he could just hit 50% of his receivers in stride we'd be undefeated right now.

Ducasse (and the rest of the O-Line) look better because they've backed away from the zone blocking scheme, and that's a good thing.

Chip would be fine IF he has a good defensive coordinator. Defense can not be treated like it was at Oregon.

Wins isn't a QB stat. I'll give him the Tampa game because the defense was getting gashed and he stepped up in a big way. Point being is I don't see him doing that consistently. Beane and McDermott are giving him every opportunity though.

So far I feel like the Bills have been winning without Tyrod. After all the guy is still in the bottom of the league in almost every passing statistic. So I think grabbing Benjamin and Thompson (who Tyrod had history with) is Beane's way of giving Tyrod some weapons and seeing if he can really become a threat from the pocket like they hope he can.

Benjamin and Holmes are both worth the 3rd rounders. Our 2nd round pick is having trouble contributing so those late 3rds are pretty useless unless packaged in a trade somewhere.

We'll know Kap got on his knees for a different reason if he gets signed.

Number 2 because a good GM doesn't listen to message boards, Twitter accounts and Facebook pages.

If Kiffin becomes the coach...

McDermott and Beane aren't playing around. If you aren't with us, you will be against us.

Should've kept Strong to begin with. Dumbest thing I've ever seen. We would've kept all the recruiting power that Urban had built up (as evidenced by the amount of players from Florida that he brought to Louisville). Would he really come back to UF after that slight? Maybe, maybe not. He's done really well at my other college team (USF) so I'd really be happy with either. They need to find a guy who can leverage the program and bring in top tier players again.

Thank god he's gone. What a !@#$ing joke that guy is. Offensive guru my ass. Still trying to figure out why Zaire is sitting on the sideline while Franks continues to suck. Maybe that will change now and I can watch my team on Saturday for longer than a quarter and a half.

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Well he's current 28th in passing yards, with a guys like Case Keenum and Deshone Kizer ahead of him lol. So I guess it could get worse but it wouldn't be that much worse. Already bottom 5 in the league.