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If he can put on about 12 pounds and retain his speed, kid could be legit. I don't know what was up with him the beginning of the year and why he was so awful, but the 180 he's pulled makes me think if he keeps working he could be the guy.

Maybe true, but you've got to also realize that when they do bring pressure, it's usually with the other team in it's own end. With their drive starts they were playing a lot of base cover 2 to attempt to prevent a score. Coaching staff is too conservative once the opposing team is across the 50. Darnold also supposedly struggles against zone so it was just a part of the game plan.

Average drive position for the Jets was the 48 yard line. That's a tall order for any defense. Last week they lost the Phins game but this week I don't think they were terrible. Terrible special teams and a sputtering offense were more to blame.

Trading for AJ Green is not something I would want to see the Bills do. Too much money and draft capital. Scenario B I think is a better option. It's up to Allen to make Jones or Williams a number 1 wide receiver. As we saw with our last exodus of talent at the wide receiver position, all the guys were capable of being number 1 guys, we just didn't have a QB to get them the ball. Letting McCoy walk would also be a wise decision. I know he's a fan favorite but the cost of keeping a 31 year old back who is definitely showing signs of hitting the wall isn't worth the fan service. Ivory can also go, I agree. If we do keep McCoy he won't be happy because I don't think he will be a feature back like he has been. Daboll's system seems to be more about a power running back, a north/south kind of runner like he utilized in Alabama. Jared Cook might be a nice stop gap but the Bills should be targeting a young TE in the draft. The position is a mess. The offensive line is awful. Only bringing in a new center won't cut it. This is where I'd like to see the Bills spend their money in free agency. I like your center choice but we're going to need a lot more than that. Chance Warmack of the Eagles is a potential target, certainly an upgrade to what we have. Bobby Massie could also be an upgrade on the right outside as the Bears are up against the cap and he may be cheaper coming off a big contract that he didn't quite live up too. The defense I think remains mainly the same. Shaq stepped up this year, Edmunds will be better in year two, Milano is an animal. We might be replacing Kyle depending on what he decides in the offseason. Will need a decent rotational player and have Phillips or Phillips step into Kyle's shoes. And I think we'll see another corner drafted. My ideal draft would look something like Noah Fant in the first, Anthony Johnson in the second and Bryce Love in the third. A nice infusion of young skill players, a veteran offensive line and young guys on defense continuing to progress should make for an exciting 2019.

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Elway said he offered him a contract. He's making enough in endorsements and such that I doubt he actually NEEDS to play football. I bet his asking price is a way bigger turn off than the fact that he might kneel.

No. Don't taint my team with Jacksonville crap.

I'd rather see the money spent on the line. We need a veteran center at least. I'm fine with young guys at the skill positions.

Center, right guard and right tackle all need a serious upgrade in the offseason. And to answer your question, Sirles was complete trash. The guy's footwork is atrocious.

Do I like the guy who has 15 catches and is only on the team because he's sleeping with the owner's daughter? Yea, no.

The flex was all about him and Shady's little beef with each other after the trade. Certainly didn't see him flexing after Zay bulled his way into the endzone on the second TD or everytime Allen made him look like a peewee player in a varsity game.

So let me get this straight, you want a guy who can't win with Aaron Rodgers over a guy that dragged a subpar team into the playoffs last year and even have them somewhat competitive this year even though they've essentially treated the entire season as a sort of preseason?

It's not about O'Leary or Clay, it was about O'Leary or the other two clowns that have done nothing all year. We're going to need some tight ends if Daboll ever wants to run the evil empire's 12 personnel that they did back when it was Hernandez and Gronk.

Bills fans have a Too-Drunk-To-Know-What's-Happening Complex. When Cam had a performance like that his rookie year all you'd hear is "can't believe we took Dareus instead of Cam," like the Bills had a shot at Cam to begin with. Football isn't all stats. Football isn't just one guy on a "team" like basketball. Lots of nuances, strategy etc that 90% of people watching don't understand so they attempt to use stats to back up their hyperbolic and uninformed opinions. Get used to it. After all, this is the same fan base that said Kelly should be benched for Reich when he had a bad game.

I watched Ivory get run down by a corner from the opposite side of the field. McCoy fall into a pile for a yard. And I thought to myself how nice it would be to have a running game to take some pressure off of Allen.

Just completely ridiculous. The Milano penalty was ***** I'll give them that. He had perfect inside position and turned back for the ball but because the tight end threw his hands up it's a penalty. But the dumb ass penalty by Phillips when they had the stop and could've forced a field goal, that should be a benchable offense at the least. And we won't even go into the choke slam sack or Fitzpatrick tackling Zay before the ball was there, two huge penalties that would've made the game winning score a 10-15 yard run for Allen that weren't called. But here we are talking about an ugly looking pass that our 2nd rate tight end misjudged and fell down while trying to catch it. I think the biggest problem right now is guys just aren't doing the little things. Everyone is trying to win the game in a single play and it just doesn't work like that. Daboll and Allen need to get that short passing game going early. It works. I know the kid has a big arm but it should be something used sparingly, not every attempt should have to be for 20 yards on a 3rd and 17. Playing QB is all about rythmn and he can't get into it only throwing on 3rd down trying to pick up big chunks of yardage. Shady needs to aim for 5 yards and not 50 to the house and the receivers all need to concentrate on catching the bill first, everything else comes second.

Josh could have rings and the fanbase would still be arguing about one or two passes a game. The defense sucked today, but no one is talking about that. They gave the game away by literally picking the ball up and carrying it down the field for the Phins on their last drive with penalties.

I blame Clay only because he was trying to catch it in the endzone when all he had to do was catch it even if he ran out to the 2, still a first down with 40 odd seconds left.

No coincidence that the head ref was a Hoculi.

We'll see what the tape says come March and April. But I don't think you'll see him at guard. Maybe RT if the Process deems someone in the draft or free agency of taking over left tackle but he's been good at LT and those guys don't grow on tress. Much easier to fill the interior of the line with mid to late round picks or above average free agent signings. Not asked to do quite as much athletically as you are on the outside.

I mean if the alleged reason he kicked her out isn't disgusting enough (not putting out for one of his crew)... then he proceeds to try to physically fight her. I mean, someone in the thread said this was weak but I see multiple people holding him back and he still manages to inflict some damage. Imagine if it was just him and her.

You want your shot at the best skill players. Doesn't matter how long Allen has in the pocket if no one is getting open. Left tackle typically goes high in the draft but that's a spot that seems to be locked up with Dawkins. So do you hope Dawkins can translate to the right side? I like the free agent class of offensive linemen more than I like the receiver class. That's going to be another factor but as it stands, I want young weapons for Allen.

I would go Harry in the first and the tight end from Mizz in the second. Worry about the o line in free agency and later in the draft.

3-3 as a starter (maybe 4-2 if he doesn't get hurt against Houston) in his rookie season on an offense that seems to be pretty void of talent and all of them learning a new scheme. Robbed of reps and playing time in the off season and training camp. No running game to speak of (unless he's the one running). No tight ends. A #1 receiver who should be playing tight end. I mean, yea it hasn't been pretty. He has had the decked stacked against him more so than any other rookie or 2nd year QB this year. I'd say he'd be the talk of the town playing for Houston or Kansas City. I think everyone should sit back, relax and let the rest of the season play out at least because your opinion will change from week to week. Obviously if we lose, you'll hate him and if we win, you'll love him. Best to have a bit more of a long term outlook.

Well if Reid wanted him that bad, then hell no. That would just mean he's even better than Mahommes.