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That was my point. We have guys that are "solid" but to be a championship team, you need guys that take over games. I'm surprised the Bills weren't more active for a wideout because Allen needs a guy that he can throw the ball up to. If that long ball is a little short or contested, who on the team currently has shown an ability to go up and get it, consistently? From the play calling and Allen's very few shots downfield, I'm going to guess the coaching staff and Allen don't think they have that guy. And just to clarify in this thread, I love the Bills. I am in no way being negative, even if you don't agree with some of my opinions. My feeling this year though is man, we are one or two pieces away from consistently competing every year.To return to thinking who's going to beat us, rather than who can we beat.

I'll leave it but I meant Steelers, I flipped them around when typing.

I'm not saying Jackson doesn't deserve credit. I never said I didn't like Jackson. I just can't wrap my head around the hate Allen gets sometimes. Athletically he is very comparable to Jackson, the run in favor of Jackson and arm strength in Allen's favor. Both have ability rarely seen in the NFL. Both have broken records in their very short careers. Bills fans don't appreciate what we have currently and as I said, in Roman's system, Allen would have a much different narrative around him.

Your opinion of who the Bills can and can't beat is conjecture. The results are literally the same. Both teams are 6-2. Funny that we as a fanbase think we can beat the Steelers but yet no one gives Jackson any grief for losing to them and playing horribly. My personal view is that Allen would be as effective if not more so in Roman's offense. That's what it really boils down to between us and the Ravens. Coaching.

I tend to agree but not speaking historically, just speaking about this year, we haven't seen them have the same impact that they've had in previous years. Never said the sky is falling, just that guys that we've watched just take over have all been quiet this year. On defense I still attribute it to not having a great pass rush. Look at the Chargers against the Packers yesterday, their pass rush took over the whole game and shut down one of the best to ever play.

Cherry picked stats to support your OPINION. Cool story bro. And those are manipulated stats on top of it. QBR is meaningless. Adjusted net yards? How about Lamar's 17.2% of bad throws which is 7th. (Allen 11th) How about Allen being the 8th most blitzed QB compared to Jackson? (15th). Stats without context are meaningless. Stats presented by Wayne Arnold to support a weak opinion even more so. The results are identical. Both teams are 6-2.

How many picks does Poyer and Hyde have between the two of them? 1 I think? Not to mention the run defense the past three games, they're responsible for gaps as well. Milano hasn't been a factor really since coming back from injury. John Brown is a good number 2. We need guys that will literally take over a game from their spot, we just don't have a lot of those. An elite edge rusher and receiver are sorely missing from this team.

You realize the score doesn't matter aside from whether it's a win or loss?

They beat the Redskins 9 nothing so i guess we're better than the 9ers...

We lack guys that take over games. Allen has been great in 4th quarter. Singletary showed yesterday that he should be the featured player in the offense. On defense you have Phillips and Tre White. The rest of the team you better rewatch the game a couple times to even notice who's out there at times.

Oliver is playing hero ball from the DT position. He is focused on making big plays, splash plays. He's a young guy who is going to have to focus more on his technique and assignments than he did in college.

You're comparing the fullback position to an edge rusher. We need a hell of a lot more production out of Jerry.

Hopefully they move on from those connections. It's time this offseason, to throw the money around and bring in legitimate talent in free agency. I keep hearing we're the worst 6-2 team but aside from Allen, Singletary, White and Phillips, who are the playmakers on this team?

Lamar threw for 163 yards last night and everyone is slobbering all over him. 143 in the loss to the Seahawks. 161 and 3 picks against the Steelers. It's just funny to me the opposite reactions to similar performances by Jackson and Allen on teams that are both 6-2. Jackson is the next coming of Jesus Christ and Allen is a bust yet both are dual threat QBs, Allen being the better passer, Jackson the better runner.

They were really relying on those Panthers players. Star and Benjamin and Murphy from the Redskins... I think Beane needs to find himself a better pro scout.

He won't be around next year. Bills need to be big players in free agency and the draft to get some pressure on the edges. It's really the difference between this defense being great and being elite.

Never even saw your comment.

It is extremely stupid to continue to point at the schedule. The NFL has the schedule structured a certain way in that the schedules are determined by which divisions play each other. There are only two games chosen based on prior year performance. People talk about it like the NFL is handpicking a bad team for us to play each week.

Good point! LOL

Until the play calling improves I think we'll continue to see around 200 yards passing. Just not enough screens and receivers in space. A lot of guys with big yards through the air benefit from YAC. Josh just doesn't get those kinds of plays often. Shame too, as we watched Singletary take a quick screen 49 yards today. Daboll seems to get a bunch of credit for running a modern offense but modern offenses employ quick screens. Daboll's does not.

Loved that we were committed to the run but I can see why Daboll ignores it, some of his run designs are just putrid. Gore also looked old today. We need to run more RPOs in short yardage. Worked like a charm on Singletary's touchdown. Maybe work in some two back sets.

The first Bills game I watched was the divisional playoff game against the Browns in 89. Watched wide right, watched the blow outs, watched the drought. I used to read fictional sports stories as a kid (football related), I even took out a book on how to play football from the library that was written in the early 50's (which was actually pretty interesting, I wish I could remember the name of it). I expanded to also following college football in 2005 when I moved to Florida and it became impossible to watch the Bills (Go Gators). I've taken time off of work to follow the draft. I love football and can't quit the Bills.

As a package, I'm fine with them doing this. Lawson, Phillips, Star and Oliver could be a good run stopping package. But as a permanent move? No way. People need to realize that other than Oliver and Philips, the D line is trash. We're going to be looking at the draft and free agency to get a pass rush in the off season. Horrible Harry will be back next year and then the defense will be elite. No more paper tigers.

It was probably just a shot at Russ Brandon and in his defense, everyone hates Russ Brandon.

That should play to his advantage, but somehow it doesn't. That 12 personnel should be lethal in play action but again, I think it comes back to the groupings. If they are going to run, Smith is in. Pass, it was Sweeney and Kroft but now Knox and Kroft. Daboll should take some notes from his former boss McDaniel's and maybe start running some two back sets. Gore and Singletary at the same time. Can motion one of them out of the back field. Fake draw to screen. An actual draw play (I mention it just because I can't recall a time this year we ran a draw). Be like McVay, figure out how to keep your best players on the field and get them the ball. And just to tie this into the Browns, we still need that Odell type of threat in the passing game where teams have to consider doubling him. It might just be Josh's inability to get the ball deep this year but we are really getting handled by teams that play man coverage because they have no reason not to play man.