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you might be right but he might have already decided that JA is sitting until a set date and does not want any controversy in the locker room. I think it had more to do with not wanting to extend his time on field with our line getting him killed. agreed and it appears in the few preseason games I have watched since the super bowl they are trying to defer to call on field unless horrible call. it was close so I doubt they overturn.

8-8 we are similar to last year and I think our QB/off coordinator are more in sync then last year.

If he somehow became a hall of famer it likely would become nothing more than a footnote ala favre throwing a pick 6 his first throw. But maybe it follows him like "wrong way" marshall. Either way his future has little to do with game just like peyron manning 6 pick game in playoffs did not srop him from winning later.

Lurker i think you might be the wingnut- RCP is mainly just takes others info and puts it together and tries to put well though out pieces on their page. They are slightly conservative but i am wondering what you called a middle of the road website?

I agree many have not been improved as far as talent but dareus was lazy as all get out. He could dominate when he chose but he chose not to care more often. But i thought beane brought in our secondary? Maybe my timeline is messed up but he brought in safeties and i also think taylor was maxed out- he would turn us into first round playoff losers. I have been that fan in other sports not fun.

I would be shocked if we were the worst team in league this year but this dude clearly watched one preseason game and made a large statement based on it. We looked like horse crap and he saw it and ran with it.

I am glad my job does not rely on analyzing a preseason game where i am not sure what is being expected of the line or qb or recievers. Ohara might suck but he is being told to make an opinion based on nothing. Espn has turned into this and it is why i have not watched anything on espn or foxsports except live sports in at least a year.

As did my wife and a bunch of cousins- a good decision on your part

Using jax as a reason to complain is not fair since everyone knew they were only throwing and had to push it. I agree that the team best run mainly but give a young dude a chance.

The hatred on here for peterman is sad and shows a complete ignorance of understanding of the development of some qbs. NP is not likely to set the football world on fire but i doubt any qb would have done well behind that line and even more importantly it was one game- many qbs have had horrible games and bounced back. If he comes out and is awful again i will want him benched but this hatred based on one horrible game where his line was pathetic is out of line.

I will count you as family if you went to Fredonia

Listen i am still blamed by my brothers for us losing the first super bowl so if you blame me for this it will not really matter

I was actually impressed(no sarcasm) with the way they got into the defense when we ran it. I though did not miss how incompetent they all seemed when it was a passing down. I know the process is different but I am shocked at how one version they are good and the other they are abysmal. If it was reversed I would have hope because JA could start and get the defense to give some space.

highly unlikely-we are not nearly that bad but I would think 3-5 is likely so if Shady goes down and a few bad breaks in the "games we should win" and 0-8 is certainly possible.

My short version is this: JA was pretty bad today and looked like a rookie who will need time but with that Line he has no chance to catch up to the speed of the NFL. Give him a chance when the line has improved. Also I truly think that NP will give us more wins THIS year.

Mostly agree but i do not think this line will improve in the pass blocking. I think we have a bunch of maulers who love smashing a defensive player but who can not back pedal and plant properly. I fear for a qb who can get get to the line of scrimmage and decide where ball is going before snap 90% of time. Peterman is right now a better fit for the talent on this team.

I thought i would be blasted for stating that peterman should start due to this line being so bad. I am not even close to being first

NO that will be completely different-just cause I said so.

I think this is the first time i have agreed fully with someone on here- i am now certain we must be wrong.

I would not say just the pats* but the overall feel that so many calls from officials are made based on preconcieved notions. Combined with rules that do not make sense the game is less fun then 10 years ago.

As posted previously in post there is a huge misconceptions about analytics- all the numbers say is that this guy has the best chance of success based on his numbers. It is not stating who is better because numbers only cover so much of a person. Also reading the numbers is not as easy as many think or the baseball A's would never be in the playoff hunt.

Funny stuff- except for winslow- and it is amazing to me that there are so many others from other sports i go to in real life. My other sport favorite is AI "practice" diatribe.

I apologize for being out of line- would it help if i said i do think the democrat politicians will harm the country to destroy trump?

Two points- several dems spoke of impeachment this week- though most are the left wing loony type. Second i am interested in how Cohen comes out of this and what exactly he is saying. Cohen s lawyer can run his mouth but until it comes from Cohen i will take everything with a grain of salt after dealing with lawyers often in my former job.

I often wonder if you are serious, a troll, or someone who simply does not have anyone to be your sounding board and tell ypu to step away from the keyboard