fergie's ire

I said IF...IF THEY LOSE...and I kind of agree about 49ers...they are on that desperate rally/season implosion razor's edge. But I think IF the Bills beat the 49ers it just takes a ton of pressure off...particularly if the Chiefs and Steelers lose a couple.

14 is what I was thinking. If that's the case then if they can beat SF and the Rams then they can loose to the Lions and sweep the Pats and Jets. Of course, the dream scenario is winning out and clinching before the last week. That way they could rest starters who would then have 3 weeks rest going into the playoffs.

I, too, am pretty old and I remember about 1980 some Ithaca College kids on Halloween dressed up as KKK members escorting a guy in black face and chains who was carrying a sign saying "Eat at Sambos." They were all suspended and a few were expelled. Even though the things you say were true back then, even then we knew that racially insensitive jokes were not cool and making them had consequences. People have this sense that 50 years ago we could dress in black face or make jokes that make an allusion (intentional or not) to lynching and everyone would laugh and be okay with it. That just wasn't the case.

Worse. He probably said something smart to Rodgers.

Yeah, I just watched that Baldy breakdown. He NEEDS one. Amazing job.

I don't think it was so much that Romo saw the line struggling. It was more like he felt that Jones was getting close and he couldn't believe that the Bills would be foolish enough to block Jones one on one because nobody is good enough to do that and eventually Jones would destroy some Bills plays....but the disaster never came.

I don't think he had any targets but I did see him late in the game...I think on that final drive.

Agreed. Looked like a fix...until the next play. In a way the call ended up helping us because it cost KC a timeout...but the failure to call it is inexcusable.

Who do we want in Pit/Balt game. Pit is tied with us so want them to lose a few games, but even though Balt is a game back they own the tie breaker with us. Feel Pitt will lose a few down the stretch, so I THINK I want them to win...but not sure. Anyone else have thoughts?

The irony is that they come from an organization that took a risk by getting rid of the quarterback who got them into the playoffs...a guy who was good but not good enough. With the Giants they didn't have the courage to jettison Danny Dimes because he helped them have some success.

Yeah, and a lot of people look at the yellow line and say he was only a few inches offside. In fact, he is a few inches inside the DEFENSIVE zone. He is completely striding across the neutral zone. After the game, the official commented that he felt he had to call it because Toney was so far offside that he couldn't see if other players were offside because Toney blocked the view of the entire neutral zone.

I agree, for the most part. It is crazy that fans are angry about such a win. However, I do understand that there is an element of "chasing the high" with a team that becomes better. Do you remember how it felt when Andy Dalton completed the touchdown pass against the Ravens? What would it take for THIS team to make us feel that way? Making it to the Super Bowl? Winning the Super Bowl? I also agree that I'd rather be a fan of this team than the drought teams...but I get that there is still something to be missed from that experience.

Yes, and now many Bills fans are miserable when we play a team that hasn't lost by more than one score all year and beat them by 10 (and was 17 until a garbage time touchdown) because we played terribly, never beat anyone convincingly, and must actually suck. I do get the appeal of lowered expectations.

A hamstring....or a shoulder, like this: Phillips belly flop

Yeah, do people want him to run after a QB and belly flop trying to make a diving tackle? We've seen that movie before.