Buffalo Bob

The Bills traded down to draft EJ. The plan was for him to sit behind the veteran Kolb and learn. Kolb got injured and EJ was thrust into action as a rookie despite himself being injured for most of his rookie preseason. He was injured two more times during his rookie season. And as far as we know he's had poor coaching in Buffalo. It would be premature to write-off EJ.

It all started in the preseason when EJ threw Watkins into a set of bruised ribs. Two weeks later when Watkins returned to action, EJ almost got him killed again on the first drive of the game.

It's funny to me that Mike Vick was brought up in this thread. It's not funny because I think it's a bad idea. Actually I think bringing him in is an intriguing idea. The reason I think it's funny is because the linked article barely touches on the whole subtext to Kelly's comments: that Vick is a free agent and is very unlikely to return to the Eagles. Of course they're going to bring in "competition."

Excerpted from another thread and posted here: Here's a list of the most recent first round QBs and where they were drafted: Matthew Stafford 1st overall 2009 Mark Sanchez 5th overall 2009 Josh Freeman 17th overall 2009 Sam Bradford 1st overall 2010 Tim Tebow 25th overall 2010 Cam Newton 1st overall 2011 Jake Locker 8th overall 2011 Blaine Gabbert 10th overall 2011 Christian Ponder 12th overall 2011 Andrew Luck 1st overall 2012 RG3 2nd overall 2012 Ryan Tannehill 8th overall 2012 Brandon Weeden 22nd overall 2012 Only two of those players have established themselves as bona fide quality NFL starters, Stafford and Newton. Both of those guys were taken first overall. Of the other players drafted in the Top 5, it's looking very likely that Luck and RG3 will have great careers and it's looking more and more certain that Sanchez and Bradford are gonna be busts. Then you have players taken outside the top 5 where EJ was selected: Josh Freeman, Tim Tebow, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Ryan Tannehill, and Brandon Weeden. I would take EJ over any of those guys. Only Tannehill and Locker have an argument and Locker is in his 3rd NFL season. Then you consider how well EJ has played especially considering he missed half the preseason and 5 weeks of the regular season. Then you consider that the Bills traded down and still got Manuel. Then you realize that people posting on this board and expressing disappointment in EJ's rookie season really have no idea what they're talking about because they have no idea what a rookie QB in the NFL is realistically expected to do. Edited by San Jose Bills Fan, 07 December 2013 - 09:33 AM.

Excerpted from another thread and posted here: Here's a list of the most recent first round QBs and where they were drafted: Matthew Stafford 1st overall 2009 Mark Sanchez 5th overall 2009 Josh Freeman 17th overall 2009 Sam Bradford 1st overall 2010 Tim Tebow 25th overall 2010 Cam Newton 1st overall 2011 Jake Locker 8th overall 2011 Blaine Gabbert 10th overall 2011 Christian Ponder 12th overall 2011 Andrew Luck 1st overall 2012 RG3 2nd overall 2012 Ryan Tannehill 8th overall 2012 Brandon Weeden 22nd overall 2012 Only two of those players have established themselves as bona fide quality NFL starters, Stafford and Newton. Both of those guys were taken first overall. Of the other players drafted in the Top 5, it's looking very likely that Luck and RG3 will have great careers and it's looking more and more certain that Sanchez and Bradford are gonna be busts. Then you have players taken outside the top 5 where EJ was selected: Josh Freeman, Tim Tebow, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Ryan Tannehill, and Brandon Weeden. I would take EJ over any of those guys. Only Tannehill and Locker have an argument and Locker is in his 3rd NFL season. Then you consider how well EJ has played especially considering he missed half the preseason and 5 weeks of the regular season. Then you consider that the Bills traded down and still got Manuel. Then you realize that people posting on this board and expressing disappointment in EJ's rookie season really have no idea what they're talking about because they have no idea what a rookie QB in the NFL is realistically expected. Edited by San Jose Bills Fan, 07 December 2013 - 09:33 AM.

You never want to be shorthanded at WR or DB unless you want to invite injury.

Yes because all college kids have the exact same life. Why don't people understand that?

Everyone's pain threshold is different. Thank you and welcome.

Two now-retired middle linebackers? Ryan Tannehill?

Did Donald Jones ever see Marrone's play book?

Billy the Buffalo? Please. The Flutie Curse.

Can you imagine how much better he'd have been if he played with the proper face ask angle?

All you guys are (gasp), agreeing?

LMAO!!! "Like that ole rooster a yours who thought he was a kang-a-roo..."

The theory upthread that Belichick told Tebow to keep a low profile seems accurate. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/11/tebow-gives-statement-takes-no-questions-post-practice/ The team released a statement for Tebow but he didn't meet with reporters.

Yep. The characterization of Johnson as showboating doesn't jive with the video. Is 85 clueless? Yes. Was he trying to be disrespectful? No. Chad is like a child who'll never grow up because until now he's never had to.

Tough competition at that position with Anderson, Lawson, Dowtin, etc.