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5 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Welp folks... just an observation here... The Bill o line has former starters as depth and back ups. That feels like a new place for us.
Not to mention trading some guys that were probably going to be cut.
QuoteA look back at the crew that began last season in a downpour against the Baltimore Ravens and each lineman’s current status:
Left tackle Dion Dawkins is back in the same role.
Left guard Ducasse is unsigned.
Center Ryan Groy is unsigned.
Right guard John Miller is starting there for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Right tackle Jordan Mills is unsigned.
Tackle Marshall Newhouse played that day and is unsigned.
Bodine dressed but did not play.
Inactive were Conor McDermott, who is back with the Bills, and Teller.
The practice squad included Gerhard de Beer, De’Ondre Wesley and Ruben Holcomb, all unsigned.I definitely was wrong about Groy, I thought he was going to be solid. I can't believe Mills lasted so long.
This is just year one of the O-line rebuild. Hopefully next year they'll only have to add a piece or two to continue to build a very good line. Let's just hope this year's is good enough to properly develop Allen and allow them to put together an offense that resembles a legitimate 2019 NFL offense. I'd like to think it is, but I've been fooled before.
Kudos to Beane and McDermott for addressing the player and coaching side of the O-line.
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The Athletic had a good article about him.
QuoteStill, college recruiters overlooked him. Johnson finished the season without a single offer, despite Coffey trying to convince schools he was the real deal. He was still only 190 pounds, so some wondered if he could put on enough weight. Others wondered if he was a basketball player.
“My comment to everyone was, ‘You’re missing the boat,’” Coffey said. “We as coaches can get indignant about some of our guys, but I said, you are going to miss on this kid because his ceiling is as high as any kid I’ve been around.”
That’s how Johnson ended up at North Carolina A&T, originally without even a full scholarship. He redshirted his first season and then started off on special teams. While the Aggies’ coaching staff took it slow with him, defensive coordinator Sam Washington almost couldn’t believe some of the things Johnson did on the field.“We were like, ‘Something ain’t right here,’” Washington said. “It was right away with me. When I saw him, every time I would walk past him, I would say, ‘Son, you’re my future.’ This was as a redshirt freshman. We knew then that we had something special with this kid.”
The way Johnson was getting off the ball, changing directions and making plays in coverage was jaw-dropping. Then as a redshirt sophomore, Johnson was standing tall against Brandon Parker, the Aggies’ offensive tackle who would become the Raiders’ 2018 third-round pick. That’s when scouts started asking, “Who is this kid?”
Next came Johnson’s dominant 2018 season, in which he had 10.5 sacks and 19 tackles for loss. Still, though, the doubts lingered. His coach and some scouts expected him to stay in school for his senior season. He also had the option of transferring to a big-time program to use his final season of eligibility. But Johnson had seen others do that only to sit on the bench, so he took his chances in the draft.
With each passing practice in Buffalo, more and more people are asking the same question others have asked before: Who the hell is that? Even Sean McDermott was a bit taken aback by how quickly Johnson has stood out.
“You see the length and the ability to bend,” McDermott said. “Those two aren’t always connected. And then the instincts, as well, are there. Early signs anyway. The thing that stands out to me most is his competitive nature and work ethic.”
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Instincts
Competitive
Work Ethic
These sound like the makings of a first round edge rusher, certainly not a 7th rounder.
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27 minutes ago, jletha said:
I disagree with you. While they were busy figuring out whether they were worth trading up for the Jets actually moved up and made their situation much more difficult. You can move up to 3 in the mean time and figure it out from there. If you determine you need to get to 2 then its a lot easier to get there from 3 than it is from 12. By delaying any decision at all until a full evaluation was done the Jets got up there and it made it almost impossible to get ahead of them. If Beane ultimately wanted Darnold after their evaluation, they screwed themselves. Of course we will never know and I dont want to imply that Beane did want Darnold, but the concept still applies.
"so that they wouldn't be stuck with a high pick they paid a premium for and then not have a QB they loved when it was their time to pick."
They were taking a QB 100% so they should be putting themselves in position to draft the guy of their choosing at all times, if you like the guy it doesnt matter that you had to trade up for him. For any other position you want to protect assets but for QBs, you go up and get them. By letting the Jets get ahead of them they were letting the Jets dictate part of their decision.
The bolded makes sense and it would be very interesting to see their QB rankings/ratings. It's impossible to know if their strategy worked out well or if they were stuck with their second favorite.
You make a fair point. I'm glad they did their due diligence before making the most significant jump up to the top 10, but I see your point.
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1 hour ago, jletha said:
Overall a great article. I love the Athletic coverage. I always will wonder if Allen was their #1 going into the draft day if they would have had the first pick. We will never know because theyre not gonna say "We had Baker and Darnold higher but they were gone before Josh". But I love Josh and I feel better about him than I have other Bills QBs. Im very excited to see him with our new WRs with a year under his belt. And I love how much he seems to enjoy Buffalo.
One thing that stood out to me, almost disappointed me, was that Beane said the Jets timelines was different than theirs. If they wanted to have the best chance of getting their guy, you'd hope they would be trying to make moves at all times to get up into the top 5 irregardless of how the board ends up. If youve got a QB you feel good about it doesnt matter if you move up to third or seventh. I hope they learned their lesson and wont get beat out by the Jets or other teams again.
Now if you just dont have the capital or they can offer a better package, theres little you can do. But to just say they beat you to it kinda bums me out.
Beane talks about that.
Quote“Well, I hope they had to give up a lot,” Beane thought. “If two teams want to make a trade, there’s nothing you can do about it. Their timeline was different than our timeline.”
The Bills hadn’t yet met with every quarterback, so they weren’t comfortable making a premature trade. Beane needed to determine not only how he would rank the quarterbacks, but for which ones he’d be willing to trade.
The last part is the most important. If they had traded up to say 3, then met with all of the QB's, and then realized they really only were in love with Mayfield and Darnold, they could have been screwed. In that case, maybe the Jets jump to 2 and then Mayfield and Darnold are gone and the Bills are sitting there with their thumb up their ass with no plan.
I see what you're saying, but I don't think you should be disappointed by their timeline / plan. They wanted to do their due diligence so that they wouldn't be stuck with a high pick they paid a premium for and then not have a QB they loved when it was their time to pick.
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Paid site, so I'll only post parts. The Athletic is well worth the price, tons of great articles.
QuoteWhile Allen was informing his coaches that he would be back for the 2017 season, Sean McDermott was in his first days on the job as the Bills’ head coach. He was still finding his way from his temporary apartment to his new office in Orchard Park. The 2017 quarterback class wasn’t at the front of his mind.
Meanwhile, Brandon Beane, who would end up drafting Allen with the No. 7 overall pick in the 2018 draft after a series of calculated moves, was still the assistant general manager in Carolina.
In the 15 months between when Allen returned to school and when he walked across the stage as a member of the Bills, a series of hires, firings, trades, interviews, scouting trips and meetings led the Bills to their decision to make him the highest drafted quarterback in franchise history.
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The same group would attend each workout. That included owners Terry and Kim Pegula, Beane, Schoen, McDermott, Daboll and then-quarterbacks coach David Culley. Beane wanted the quarterbacks to set up the dinner plans for the night before the workout and to organize their own receivers as a way of testing their maturity. Then there was Daboll’s test. It included a few basic formations, motions, defensive fronts, run concepts and pass concepts. He sent the test ahead of time to get a baseline for each quarterback’s football knowledge, which he could revisit during the workouts and test their ability to retain information.
Allen’s private workout was scheduled for March 16 and 17 in Laramie, Wyo. The Bills’ private charter flew out to Wyoming and almost didn’t land. The plane hit a mountain wave while descending in Wyoming, sending those onboard into a panic due to the turbulence. Daboll freaked out and FaceTimed his wife. Beane and Terry Pegula, watching film, scrambled to their seats. Schoen has video of the whole thing.
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In the coming weeks, the Bills finished their visits with the quarterbacks, each one going through the same process. Beane only smiles when asked if Allen scored higher on Daboll’s tests than any other quarterback.
Then they had Allen out to Orchard Park for a pre-draft visit, the final box to check.
“By the time he was here, I remember putting him up on the board and going through a much more extensive deal than what we did and he had a really good recollection of what we did there,” Daboll said. “Then I threw a lot at him. He was pretty smart.”
The video of inside the plane while they're hitting strong turbulence would be very interesting to see.
Nothing crazy new or anything, but a good article going through their process.
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Darryl Johnson seems like a lock at this point.
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That is a freaking gut punch to those fans this close to the season.
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Damn I am pumped about Oliver and his future. The pre-draft character concerns look like nothing at this point. He's doing everything he's supposed to be doing. I can't wait to see him reach his potential.
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8 minutes ago, dakrider said:
If I remember correctly one of the knocks on Allen last year was holding the ball to long, so getting rid of the ball quickly is a major plus. Getting into the rhythm or habit of making the quick pass is significant.
100% correct.
Sure, Allen throws to his primary target a number of times, but the author totally ignores that this is part of being a good QB, finding the best pre-snap matchup. On the seam throw to Sweeny, he makes a check (Which the author doesn't mention) and throws a perfect pass with anticipation. On the corner route to Sweeny, he makes a great throw with a muddy pocket.
Allen definitely doesn't run at the first sight of pressure or his first read not being open.
Pretty much a trash article.
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After watching "Every Kyler Murphy run and pass" and all of Allen's throws, I assume this is how the author views football.
Pass far = good
Pass short = vanilla/bad
He's chucking it down field, but doesn't complete a single pass beyond the sticks. Somehow that is better than completing short passes and moving the ball.
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I'm curious to see if Nsekhe plays tonight. Was he left out of team drills on Wednesday because they're about to trade him, discipline, injury, or something else?
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Far too often over the years the middle of the field is abused by other teams because the linebackers and safeties do not cover well. Between Hyde, Poyer, Edmunds, and Milano, it looks like this team might have this issue covered.
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Assuming he has better blocking in front of him, I imagine we'll see quite a bit less running. There will probably be games where teams load up on coverage and he runs a bit more and then there will be games like against the Lions where they focus on the running and he doesn't run at all. Like last year, I don't expect a lot of designed runs and that's how I prefer it.
I was watching an old Cover 1 video and grabbed the screenshot below. Not a single lineman was blocking someone when he was about to pass the ball. Just downright, utterly terrible.
The only person between a defender and Allen is Zay Jones of all people.
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13 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Look, the kid has been exposed to blocking and taught to block. Lee Smith might show him a few pointers, and that's nice. I want this kid to be a pass catcher, not some 90's style TE galloot
Lol, this is so weird. Do you think they don't practice catching the ball and running routes in addition to blocking?
Did the article say that Sweeny only gets his instructions from Smith?
Quote“Once you get labeled and once people, especially in the media, decide that you’re this or you’re that then that just kind of becomes what’s written about,” Smith said. “But I promise you one thing right now: Tommy Sweeney is not just a blocking tight end. Maybe I am but he’s not. The kid can run, he gets in and out of his breaks - I mean he’s not making plays against the threes out here he’s playing plays against the ones. That’s our one defense and they were second in the league, if I’m not mistaken. He’s a good football player in both aspects of the game and he works his butt off.”
Does that help?
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10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
That hurt my soul. I mean i was born a Bills fan, I didn’t choose it. Guess it doesn’t work that way in nascar land. Anyway I’ll forgive him since he also said this which makes up for it
Eh, who cares. It came off as a weak, lowbrow attempt at humor.
If Sal or another respectable Buffalo media member wrote that about another fan base, I'd be pretty disappointed.
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5 hours ago, jletha said:
https://onepantherplace.com/?p=2497
Some good stuff in here about our defense. Then takes a cheap shots at Bills fans haha. Must have had his jimmys rustled by the Panthers camp being dominated by Bills fans
Why? Just why?
Why would anybody want to be a Bills fan? What’s the appeal? What’s the point? I get the shipwreck survivors who were fans in the early-mid 90’s. Since then? What jumps out as remotely appealing? And, hey, I don’t hate Buffalo. But, damn, talk about a purgatory of irrelevance.
And, hey. Look..it’s weird seeing a bunch of former Panthers again, wearing Bills attire. It’s creepy.
Just the whole scene was bizarre, to be honest.
Seems like someone's salty over the fact that the visiting fans had a better turnout.
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2 minutes ago, eball said:
Have you guys not heard Ed Oliver say that? It cracked me up. He said it within the last week, after the first preseason game.
I thought it was Ed that I heard say it. I love the young man's attitude.
Allen, Edmunds, Tre, and Ed (there's more, I'm just thinking about first rounders) could all end up looking like steals in the next few years.
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2 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
I am desperately rooting for him to not hit 60% but still win enough games to get to the playoffs.
59.9% while leading the league in TD's and yards and leading the team to a 12-4 record.
People's heads would explode.
I'm joking of course, I'm sure everyone would be happy with that.
Although, I'm not so sure...
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Oliver wasn't getting pushed back by double teams and only really got completely controlled twice, I'd call that a solid debut considering the competition.
Allen getting crap for the Zay drop is hilarious. There was plenty of space for Zay to catch the ball and score while protecting himself. Watching Zay flub that and then thinking about Singletary reaching up for a high throw from Barkley only to quickly spin out of a hit and pick up 6 yards for a first, is kinda frustrating to think about. A first year RB made a really nice catch/play for a first down while the 3rd year WR continues to make the same mistakes he's been making.
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Fuse the best part of the 2018 Bills QB room together and it would still get easily outplayed by a suddenly overweight Colin Kaepernick.
13 minutes ago, The Wiz said:That peterman hype video is pretty much all they needed to put in the article for it to be funny.
That would have been 100x better, that video is hilarious.
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I'm loving Ed's effort and attitude. A stupid incident with a jacket, him being extremely confident in an interview, and him getting upset about messing up in practice aren't going to persuade me otherwise.
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Describe Josh Allen in One Word... his teammates respond
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Reading those made me want to run through a f*&#ing wall.
This was the most encouraging though.
Other good ones about his improvement that I liked.