klos63

facts always get in the way of a good thread.

Arizona plays in a dome, no weather issues for games.

Sorry for acting so tough on you, but reading these posts daily I am shocked at some of the logic that goes into 'hoping we win' by things other then playing the game. Look past a game, trap game, travel through time zones, weather, the fans....Nothing personal, just amazes me sometimes.

You really think players actually circled dates on their calender....

They probably will, I wonder if they will even show up for the game. They might even plan on Russell Wilson at QB... wouldn't that be funny.

I think this TE issue, that the Bills have never been able to cover them, is one those stupid threads that goes on without anyone really thinking about what they are saying. A TE has a good day and there is the issue that we can't cover them. A WR had the same day, but no comment on how we can't cover WR. Why are TE so different that it should be expected that they aren't productive? WR, TE and RB all catch balls, they are trained to. If they have a good day, it isn't necessarily a indictment of the defense. I get really tired of hearing this babble. And honestly for many years, we haven't defended any player very well, not sure why tight ends get singled out.

it would be nice if all good players played at a high level forever, but it doesn't work that way. One of the biggest fallacies in life is that if something happened in the past, it will happen again in the future. Players skills deteriorate over time, some quicker than others. Injuries, age, skill all factor in. What happened on the 2011 O-line is irrelevant.

why 'guru' , just because he played the position? That would make hundreds of guru's out there. you don't know that they didn't try, but which team actually could afford to trade a quality lineman. We drafted 3 lineman this past year. The team is probably expecting them to start eventually, unfortunately it doesn't always happen as quickly as we would hope.

"it's 4 down territory" , it's always 4 downs, it's just a matter of whether you punt or go for it on fourth.

I think you should expect more from them. They probably get paid quite well to do this job. I personally don't care all that much how bad they are, but I would think they would try to stop saying stupid things. Announcers that say obvious things are pretty useless in my opinion. Sometimes they just don't think and end up saying stupid things. Looking at another sport - my brothers favorite pet peeve. When a basketball player throws the ball overhand down court, they call it a baseball pass.... they don't pass the ball in baseball. Why don't they call it a basketball pass, since that is exactly what it is. This is why they are called pet peeves, stupid stuff, but not at all serious.

When judging if the play results in a first down or not -- "it depends on the spot" - no kidding.

reminds me of lance alworth, raymond berry, steve largent types....

it's possible we wouldn't have been in a 4th and 20 with EJ. He may have marched us right down the field. Or not.

Iighten up will ya, I was referencing a hall of fame coach for context - can you understand that. It's quite a leap to say by quoting him that it is 'gospel'. I would rather listen to him than a bunch of hacks on a blog that think they know more than the coaches.

Marv always said to take the ball on calls like this. Possession is critical and you have the ball now. They kick over, maybe we have a penalty or something else bad happens. You got the ball, keep it.

Tackle by Dareus , no gain.

why does anyone really give a crap what the first play is? Just something else to whine about.

Gailey is a very good offensive coordinator. That helps your line a lot. But if you listen to a lot of people on here, having a former lineman as coach should make the line better, obviously they are wrong, probably wrong on a lot of other points too. If you want to criticize Marrone for making Hackett OC, I'll agree with you there.

no idea what you are referring to with the 20%.... How is he using the roster correctly? are you referring to the whole roster or just the offense. I think the defense are special teams are being used exceptionally well, both are playoff caliber units. Crossmans unit is playing quite well now, that should be all that matters, unless you just want to rag on him for whatever reason. I don't agree with the rotating RB, I think we need a number 1 guy to establish some continuity. I think we have 3 distinct type runners with a young, inexperience or unskilled in some areas, offensive line and that makes it more difficult for the lineman. If you have been paying attention, I'm saying very little that is remotely positive about the offense, it's just that my opinion is that the line is the main factor for our failures , not the only. Cop out???? remember the 90's , we were a top rushing team for years. It's pretty damn important.

Because our WR were crappy a couple years ago, like most of our team has been. Having talented WR doesn't mean you can't have a ball control type offense. It doesn't mean you run the ball every play in every situation, but I think our main focus would be on being able to run the ball at any point of the game, with big play ability at WR. Remember, until a dome is built this team has to deal with ****ty weather for a few home games and running the ball is essential.

Sure, I'm not giving Marrone a pass, but I think the fact that he was a former lineman/line coach it too simplistic a reason to think we should have a good o-line. Every team has a line coach that devotes 100% of their time to that position, most are probably former lineman at some level. Doesn't guarantee anything.You seem to agree with me that our line stinks - I don't know how anyone couldn't, I disagree on Wood, hasn't shown me much, you can say he has no help, or maybe he doesn't help much - he is the most important member of the line. I think our line stinks, I think some of the players will improve, I think some won't. I do believe a better staff would get more production from them, but not sure it would be a significant improvement. Our offense is in disarray , lot's of blame to go around.

I don't see how the fact that the line stinks isn't the main factor in anyones mind as to the problems with this offense. Get a good line and then judge the rest. Now you could make the argument that our play calling doesn't gel with our lines skills, but I doubt that right now. They really blow.To some of your points. I don't care who are #1 target is on a game by game basis, it's who is open, but I do think we are better served getting the ball to Watkins/ Woods. We don't run the read option anymore - not with Orton Spiller, sorry you can't just place him ' in space' he needs blocking just like any other back - he doesn't know how to follow any blocks - if there is a small hole that Jackson can hit, why can't Spiller? I wouldn't mind seeing Bryce Brown given a shot - who do you sit or take carries away from? Or do we run more and pass less to Watkins/ Woods.... I think the desire of this teams offensive philosophy would be a running ball control team, low risk, low turnover type offense , but you need a good o-line , we have a horrible one. Someone, somewhere mentioned how Dallas has given Garrett a probably very fair amount of time to get the team as a playoff contender. Marrone is less than 1 1/2 years into his program. I know it's tough to be patient week to week, but to be fair to him, he may need more time to be fairly judged. We drafted 3 lineman this year, to expect much out of them as rookies is asking an awful lot. Patience sucks, but I hear it is a virtue.

No it's not. Kujo was absolutely horrible, Richardson rated one of the worst guards in the league - they are rookies and may develop, but they obviously aren't ready. Manuel isn't ready and by most wasn't regarded as a top tier QB prospect. Every team drafts players in the first round, second round, third.... doesn't mean they are all good picks. We have good skill at WR, I will agree with you there. Limited skill at TE, we do not have 2 of the best RB in the league. The line stinks - is it poor drafting, poor coaching or just not enough time yet to judge Kujo, Richardson and Henderson - probably the latter, but it's still an issue.

Really? So the quality of the roster doesn't matter? Listen, I'm not sold on Marrone either, but I can't ignore 4 weak points on the line. Just watch the games, the line kills us. I think it's that simple.

might be a combination of that. But I go by the logic, it's the GM's job to field a quality team with players that fit the team philosophy. It's the coaches job to get the most out of that team. I don't believe Marrone has been given all the tools offensively. He has defensively, and the defense is playing quite well. Would you give him any credit for that? He's been given good quality on special teams and they are playing well. Not enough on offense.