Dan

He caught the ball. Two feet down. And on the broadcast… but he didn’t make a 3rd move. So how many moves does it take to make a catch? Unless of course your a Bill.. then it’s a penalty against Buffalo for.. make up excuse.. it was a ***** officiated game.

Maybe? Gotta be a reason we keep getting screwed. Diggs should just wear a jersey that tears away... so when they hold. He just loses his jersey but isn't stopped exactly. And people are gonna talk about Josh’s interception

Just came here to say… Twice again.. Josh left the field with the lead only to watch the defense piss the game away. Is it time for McD to recognize that he needs an actual defensive coordinator? The Bills will never win anything as long as Roger Goodell is the cigarette smoking man’s doppelgänger. The league made sure the Bills would not win this game! The defense did their part to blow it… but the league made sure it would not be a Bills win. so… what did we do to perennially piss off the league officials? And how do we get a real DC in here?

Pretty much agree. The Eagles are the number 1 rush defense because of their D-line. They also generate a lot of pass rush. Find a way to run and give just an extra second is key. Conversely,our D-line needs to pressure Hurts while containing the edges. That and win the turnover battle. It’s just that simple.

I think just having 5ish designed runs by Josh per game is all it would take to open the offense up considerably. I don’t think that’s all we need to do however. They have to get creative with their routes and scheme receivers open. Dorsey has done almost none of that. And it shows. But with Josh a run threat a defender has to hesitate just a bit to watch him. And that, alone, made the predictable route formations easier to complete. Without a threat of Josh running, the defenses have been able play to our tendencies and jump routes far too often. You don’t need creativity on every play. Or trick end arounds on every drive. But you need some! You need just enough to make the defense think and hesitate. And why, for the love of all that is holy, can they not complete a proper pick play concept and get someone running free for a simple 5yd completion or a gd screen pass. These are two play concepts that the Bills just can not do. And every successful team can. If they add in the threat of Josh running, add in 1 pick play, and 2 screen passes… they could probably leave the rest of the offense as is and see dramatic improvement in every aspect.

This is exactly what’s wrong with this place lately and why it’s becoming less and less of a place to come and get Bills news and discussion. Too many people manufacture issues and make stuff up to prove some point they made up. Now we’re picking plays that are good. He ran the route he was supposed to. Josh makes an incredible throw. Gabe catches the ball and turns upfield for extra yards. …and that’s the reason you don’t like a player!? This thread is emblematic of the state of this franchise among the fan base (at least here). There is soooo very little actual discussion of the team here lately. Just people with axes to grind and using every instance possible to restate their disdain for everything in the organization.

Why does it seem like half the people here are hoping for a loss so they can enjoy their misery in full throat?

My thinking is the offense is highly predictable because of those option routes. There’s very little scheming guys open. Instead Dorsey relies on players making correct reads and adjusting routes on the fly. There’s a few problems if that is ..all.. the offense relies. 1. Defenses know what the offense is queuing in on, as well. So it’s really easy to bait them into certain routes and formations, and then jump the route and get interceptions. This, I suspect, is one of the reasons Josh has as many Ints as he does especially in the red zone. 2. Also, with so few formations and routes, the Bills Offense is just too easy for defenses. Hence, the better teams pretty much know exactly what is coming. I would suggest our defense has gotten similarly stale. The good teams and QBs know exactly who is blitzing and how to attack the man combinations. In short, McD and company have to mix things up… one way or another.

I’ve been thinking this since mid last season. There’s been 2 things that have kept Dorsey and the Status Quo going since then: 1. Josh. He’s such a dynamic athlete that he can make chicken salad out of chicken *****. Look at the play where the 2 receivers run into each other and fall down… Josh keeps the play alive long enough to let Kincaid get up and hit him for a first down. Great play design! ..not 2. Against the weaker, incompetent teams; they rack up the stats and points. This keeps them in the top 5 of all key offensive statistics. So when they self scout and say… what needs to change on offense… they look at the stats and say… nothing. Just need to execute. Blah blah. But as pointed out in this video, Dorsey is relying on perfection for the offense to succeed. Perfect passes, perfect reads, routes, blocks, perfect everything… and against the better teams; that doesn’t cut it. Hence we win more than we lose and run up the stats. Then get in the big games and fall flat against better players and coaches. They need to make a change. Now or at the end of the season… I’m not sure it matters.

The thing is.. call that tripping penalty. Don’t call the intentional grounding. 3 pts almost assured. call the facemask on Davis in the endzone.. ball on the 1. TD far more likely than a FG. Thats 7 extra points and the difference in the game. And that’s not counting all the other holds not called and any of the other plays that may have happened had they not cut Bills drives short. The league screwed us ..again.

In all seriousness… why watch the games if the Referees are so blatantly call the game in favor of one team. This game was pathetic. The Bills did enough to lose. But the Refs made sure it would never be close. This game reminded me of so many of our games against the Pats…. Everything they did was ignored… everything our boys thought about was called. f’in bull####

Really? So I guess scoring on every offensive drive in a playoff game doesn’t count? Stopping Lamar..in the playoffs? Shutting down and steamrolling a team that had just put up 70pts; yeah they just lucked into that. Rolling right through the Super Bowl champs on opening day… nothing? And that’s just me typing fast to board a plane. Honestly… it’s bad statements like yours that makes me wonder if people actually watch the games. Or does everyone just spew whatever thought that comes into their head with no care or concern for reality? You’re upset with how you feel the team is playing. But let’s not rewrite history just to validate your feelings.

I finally watched the Bucs game. If they play with the same offensive tempo and pace… there’s few teams that can stop them. Allen and the line were completely dialed in. The defense is lacking… we’re missing 3 extremely important players at each level of the defense. That just is what that is. They seem to be getting better with what they have.. but there’s only so much you can do. bottom line: absolutely no reason to think this game is a blowout for Cinci. Posters thinking that haven’t watched the Bills play.

So true. LOL

@BRH is correct. Chiefs need to win… hopefully in a devastating way. Best chance to make the playoffs is to win the division; we need the Fins to lose several so week 18 is a day off.

The team is playing better than their fans are posting based on this place.

I think it’s time to talk about Mahommes…. He just can’t read defenses. And doesn’t look engaged anymore.

Can agree with all that… but as I understand it, Josh likely aggravated his throwing shoulder. So maybe the idea was… let’s run the ball, hang on, and get out of here with no more injuries. ?? Bad idea? Maybe. But the notion that the McD is too conservative forgets all the games that they won by 3 or 4 scores, or all the times they have gone for it on 4th down, or basically anything based on reality and centers on… I don’t feel good about this.

I was not able to watch the game because I was driving through mountains all day. Got home finally and read a few quick articles to see how the game went… who won, how the offense looked, etc. After 3 quick articles at NFL.com, cbs.com, and msn (I think); I was feeing pretty good and positive… almost as though the Bills looked good in a sound win. Then I came here to read some of the local “fan” reaction, maybe get the views of some that attended the game (always love that perspective), and hope there was links to funny memes, post game conference clips, and the like. And wow… now I’m convinced the Bills lost. McD should be fired and we need to rebuild the team from the ground up. We sucked again and will be lucky to win another game all year. In short, this place is becoming a cesspool of miserable takes, negativity, and reactions. How did TBD become so bad?

Screw him and most anyone that thinks he deserves recognition for cheating his way to half those wins. He demonstrated all the worst qualities of a human being for most of his career. He’ll be in the hall of fame and I’ll have to listen to schmucks praise him forever, but he cheated, he lied, he gamed the system to win at all costs. That is the part of his legacy the leagues wants everyone to forget.

But that is the kind of pick that tells me the defense is reading the play as well as the offense. And is why I say Dorsey’s offense - the routes, the formations, the play calls, the blocking gaps - all become too predictable. He relies on perfect execution. That gets you a lot of stalled drives. The best plays are when they go off script, and 4th quarter when Josh says everyone run around I’ll find you.

No. If anyone thinks Mahommes would have identical success on any other team, they’re not grounded in reality.

I’m willing to try anything to get the offense out of Dorsey’s hands.

No it’s not. There’s 10 weeks left… every team is mathematically still alive.

Just here to say… I’m officially on the get a new OC bandwagon. This is the second year in a row… we came out of the gates looking unstoppable. Only to hit a big slump in the middle of the season. Defenses are jumping routes, shutting down the run, and playing half a step ahead of our offense. And Dorsey has no adjustments to make. Add in the obligatory defensive meltdown at just the right times… and here we are. Struggling to look competent. All too often the team looks unfocused, slow, and just out of sync on offense. The defense is good, but one player misses a tackle and they give up 30 yard runs when they need 1 stop.