Dan

That's exactly what I was thinking. Why not just run once or twice? I guess the kneel downs were the safe way out, but it got a little dicey.

Cheer up. The Bils won today!

His play fake, where he literally walked back after faking the handoff, then threw a great pass to the TE for the score was a thing of absolute beauty. ...until the TE tripped on the turf and fell.

I thought they said he "forearmed" his head as he fell on the dude. I didn't see it, but that's all I got.

I'll defend him. He had a bad game... so what. All players have bad games. BTW... The Bills won.

From all I've heard, Byrd is sitting out because he wants to be payed as the #1 Safety in the league. Do you think he's the best safety in the league? I don't. He's good... top 5 maybe. But, not the best. And now... he has a chronic injury keeping him from playing through the first quarter of the season. That is not the way the most valuable safety in the league plays. Honestly, I don't get it. What's the chance another team pays him $9million a year after this drama? In all likelihood, he goes elsewhere and gets a very similar contract to what the Bills offered him. My conclusion, he just doesn't want to play for the Bills. So, sit him, IR him, I don't really care. But move on with him no longer in the locker room.

Well... I saw a lot of what I wanted to see. By no means was it perfect, but a noticeable improvement in the game plan, use of the play clock, and a pumped up looking team. There were still plenty of mistakes. Lots of room to get better. But, it was positive to see. Next week.... lets just see more of the same!

wow! This London game crap is pathetic. Please, for the love of all things holy and pure, end it!!

The team needs to call Byrd out, IMO. Bench him and have Marrone just call it like it is when asked about his progress... "Byrd is out. And right now I'm trying to get the players that have a heart and want to play ready to play. The others, well I don't have time for." If true about Carrington, his agent could have just cost him a lot of money.

Exactly! There have been some things about the coaching hires, but overall I'm seeing a coaching staff that looks every bit like they're learning to coach, just as the rookies are learning to play. And as the game footage piles up, they're looking even more out classed each week.

I don't think I am. I don't expect a win. I expect to see NFL level competence from a coaching staff. If the players don't execute, that's one thing.. they're young and all. But, leaving Rogers one on one? Calling a 3rd and 1play that has guards and tackles pulling. That's putting your players in a position to lose.

For me, its the same thing I've been wanting to see for years... Play with some attitude and fire in their bellies, hitting hard for the entire game. Add to that, improved game day coaching. Better clock management and adjustments in the game plan. If you try a play and it's not working; they need to stop trying it! Don't leave inexperienced corners on an island with the other teams #1 WR. Find some way to get pressure on the QB. FInd some way to limit the pressure on ours. In other words, it would be nice to see the coaching staff show a level of comptence in and understanding of the game that's being played. I really don't want to sit on my couch in Idaho and feel like I know more about the game than our coaching staff.

Actually you did: You suggest that others read the entire thread, perhaps you should as well? You're contradicting yourself, repeatedly. All in a rather poor attempt at objectivity. Just admit you dislike Gailey and all he did and think nothing he did here was good. Hence, Hacket should ignore any postives that Gailey was able to achieve from Stevie or Spiller, or the O line or Chandler. That would be a more convincing argument and perhaps easier for you to defend than your current line of rambling.

You're right. I apologize. I'm being totally childish... hell even immature and absurd to think, or hope actually, that a professional individual with $100s of millions of dollar at stake as well as his and others professional career at stake would ever consider something other than his own experiences and personal knowledge to run a team or design a system. Again, forgive me. Gailey sucks! We're way better without his loser plans anymore!!

Just because everyone does it, that doesn't make it right or the best approach. Not to mention, our OC is drawing on his vast experience... in college! And it shows quite frequently. Not to mention, I recall Marrone talking about he had been studying offense for some time going back to the K-Gun to put together a hybrid offense that is best. If so, why not look at Gailey's last year? I'll say this one last time, because you're obviously not getting it. I'll even put it in its own paragraph so perhaps you actually read it... I'm not saying use all of Gailey's offense. I'm saying adapt SOME of the plays/formations/etc. for use in the new offense. Not everything Gailey did was bad. Just like not everything they're doing now is bad. Take the best of the best and incorporate them together.

Gailey, because he was here just last year. His system, his offense was designed with many of these players in mind. Not to mention, because it was the Bills offense, the playbook stays with the Bills and the players here know the plays. So it should be a much easier and efficient way to incorporate these few plays. Just because Gailey's tenure was overall a losing one, that doesn't mean everything he did was bad. Why not take the best of the stuff and add it to the best of the new stuff? No, lets be blinded by our dislikeof all things Gailey and dismiss the fact that he actually had a decent offense.

Why does it have to be either or? There were some good things in Gailey's offense. Why not try to incorporate some of them into the new offense? Stack formations, screens, running from 4WR sets are all things Gailey did to put his players in a position to win. And they're not bad ideas at all. Continuing to run Spiller into the teeth of a stout defensive line and going no where is a bad idea. Unless... I was wondering if I was the only one to think this way. It almost seems at times that they're workingon things for the future... knowing they may not be successful now. The no huddle, for ex, yeah it's not clicking just yet, but if they want to be good at it in 1 or 2 years, then you stick with it now and take your lumps. Same with some of the running plays. It's kinda like they're trying to build an identity, even though they know they're not there yet. I'm not yet sure if its a good approach or not.

The truth is often confusing once you've been raised with so many lies and deceptions. Just open your eyes and the truth shall set you free!

I can't disagree with anything you've said. I wish I could. I wish I could say.. yeah it all makes sense. But, I fail to have that resolve anymore. Seeing this organization continue to make the same mistakes over and over that part time fans can see, just has taken its toll on me I guess.

With all these players hurting, not being 100%, and still trying their best to play for the team; how the hell does Byrd even show his face in the locker room?

True. Its more like "fumble around in the dark put some stuff together, turn the lights on... nope. turn the lights off and keep stumbling" mode. Maybe its easier for the players and coaches because they're all new and whatever. But as was just said, for us fans... seeing the same old Bills get run all over yesterday just punched me in the gut. It flat out sucks. Seeing the way this team continues to play, especially against division teams, you have to wonder at times do they even care? Do they? The only 2 players that ever seem to really care are Freddie and Stevie. All the others, just go into shut down mode and go back to looking at film.

Ya know what sucks most about a post like this and your attitude?? Just a few short years ago, I would have completely dismissed these thoughts as being overly cynical and pessimistic. Sadly, today, I can find almost no way to disagree with you. This franchise seems completely lost. My biggest concern this entire off season continues upon considering this game... it's the coaching staff. Not only do we have rookies on the field, but we have rookie coaches in the NFL that seem clueless. We can all rant back and forth about this player or that, but this loss falls squarely on the coaches. The Jets blitzed Manuel like crazy, and did little to even disguise it at times. What was our adjustment? None. That's what we did. Nothing. Just called the same predictable plays into the same predictable defense. After Kiko's intereception, I told my sister.. here we go - run, run, blitz the pass, field goal. That's how predictable we were. Seeing the Jets line up, knowing the blitz was on and we made zero adjustments. Even, on defense, Pettine just said last week... the key to good coverage is make sure they don't have to cover for long (i.e. pass rush). So, what did he do all day to adjust to the Jets? nothing. He let Gino stand tall and throw the ball all over the place hanging the injured secondary out to dry. It was unbelievable how little pressure we got on Gino. This coaching staff has to realize this isn't college. Game plans that work in week 1, don't work in week 2. And if a play doesn't work the first time you run it, or the 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th, or 5th... stop calling that play! Bottomline, despite the injuries and rookie player concerns, my biggest concern after yesterday is that we were severly out-coached.

I agree. Stevie did what half the players in the league do all the time... get up and jaw a bit. And it had no affect on the out come of the game, other than maybe piss #20 off and get under his skin causing him to get benched. Of all the crap the Bills out on the field today... Stevie is no where in that list, IMO.

Honestly, that's how I felt. It was painfully obviousnhe was being outclassed and there was nothing he or the team could do about it.

I could see how some might see it as snippy, but IMO she was factual. People would start talking BS about this play or that and she'd just back up the argument with all the facts to completely shut the BS down. Having intellegent, knowledgeable members like her is what made this THE place for Bills information. We still have excellent information and posters here, but there's far more BS and idiocy you have to sift through to find it.