Dan

It would be completely stupid to trade a franchise Left Tackle, that appears to have zero attitude issues and has few lingering health issues. Dareus on the other hand..... seems to be playing just well enough to not completely suck.

I wasn't confident until the final tackle... And even then I paused to double check for a penalty flag. Being a Bills' fan is not for the faint of heart! LOL

I must admit... I thought it was too. It just looked like a game that we should absolutely win, yet did everything possible to lose it. And then.. Bam... Tyrod hits that big throw and the while team game alive. It takes a lot to change the culture of a team. ...and a fan base. But do I dare believe that this team is changing their fate?

I was going to say... Relocation/moving. But then, that's the team quitting on us fans. I'd still be a fan of the Buffalo Bills, I just wouldn't have anything to cheer any more. But, players, coaches, losing, winning, all that crap comes and goes. I have endured and will continue to endure that until I'm dead.

...and we're done here! /thread

Personally, I don't like the red zone channel. I want to watch a game, not a disconnected series of plays and highlights. I like the strategy, seeing the alignments, feeling the flow of the game. But, maybe this is a large part of the issue. Today's kids ....yeah.. I'm old enough to say that now ...don't seem to have the ability to concentrate on a single 3+ hour game.

Over saturation is a big part of it. MNF used to be the single, nation wide, primetime game. Now you got them every other day of the week it seems. Add to it the over saturation of certain teams always getting the primetime spots, and it another big who cares. Why is it the Bills never get a prime time game?? I know they suck, but are thet really that bad compared to the Titans or any of these other crappy teams they try to make us watch. Add in the league being able to make a phone call and stripping points off the board when ever they seem to feel like it and its just hard to get too excited about games any more.

And yet they still won the Super Bowl. And 4 game suspension after getting caught cheating during a game. Players get more suspension time for off the field bar fights. I agree the league is incompetent and stupid with their rules. The fact that ...no one... knows what a catch is any more is all you need to look at. However, its more than just coincidental that a small few teams, with New England's team being at the top of the list, benefit more frequently and at more critical junctures in the game than the lesser hyped teams.

I see the type of play going on around the league and think we can definitely hang with any team. I think, if we can just field some NFL caliber WRs, we could definitely have a playoff game (might could even do it if the coaches would scrap this zone block crap and let Tyrod run more). But... Then I see the league call down from New York, take points off the board, and give the ball to the opposing team. And I think... What does it matter? The league clearly has their favorites and they clearly will do whatever they want to make sure certain teams win. And that is why it's getting harder to be a fan and watch these games. You get excited thinking you're watching an upset happening, watching a good game, and the league reminds you that nope.. We're not gonna let our favorite teams lose.

Now it makes sense! None of the Bills wins can be good ones now...ergo we suck and should stop even trying.

Surely you jest. Everyone knows... If we beat the Chiefs, then the Chiefs obviously aren't a very good team and clearly suck as well. It's a fact...the Bills never beat good teams, nor do half of their wins really count because they didn't win the right way.

They aren't in sole possession of first place. The Bills are on a bye. So, just like your favorite team they still have 2 losses. Hence, we still share the division lead with them. Furthermore, I would add that the Bills were in first place after week 1. So it's your favorite team that has had to keep winning each week just to keep pace with the Bills. There's still a lot of football to be played. Who know where the teams will end up. But.... Can we try to enjoy the season rather than writing the Bills off while they share the division lead?

You absolutely cannot discount the cheating culture and extreme favoritism that team receives from the league. They are quite literally gifted several wins each and every year due to highly questionable calls. Today was a case in point.

Watching this Jets game just reminds me why watching football has become so difficult: First, we haven' had a WR is decades that could actually catch poorly thrown balls. I see receivers all the time catch poorly thrown balls and bail out their QB... Except in Buffalo. It's frustrating. Second, the refs are so clearly in the back pocket of the Patsies, and perhaps most big market teams. How many times does the underdog team do something good only to gave it called back because of a ticky tack penalty? It's become so blatant over the years, you just expect it. Edit.... Switching to Packers game - apparently you can't block defenseless defenders any more? WTF.

The refs will always make sure the they're in it till the end.

Touchdown Jets. I'm having second thoughts about McCown! Lol

That's what I would call... Winning the Bye week!

Why is it Brady ..never.. gets hit like Rodgers just did?

You beat me by 10 seconds!

Exactly my thinking. How do you as a new Head Coach not look at the last 2 years of tape and say, lets keep that going? It doesn't take a full year of study, it doesn't take seeing the players in person for a a full season of play. It was blatantly obvious to anyone that saw the Bills play.... For 2 years our defense sucked and the offense was decent. So bring in a new philosophy on defense that takes you back to the players strengths (which they seem to have done), and hire someone that will retain the offense as it was. Sure, over time you can and should introduce additional wrinkles, upgrade players, move on from some. But to do what they've done is an inexcusable. I'm not saying I want any of them fired... I'm just saying they should own up to their mistakes and change what they're doing.

And that is exactly how you fix this offense. Drop this nonsense that Dennison thinks is going to work, and run the plays that the current players ran quite proficiently for the last 2 years. But... I fully expect they won't do that. We'll continue to hear how we need a new offensive line, new WRs, new QB, new every thing and wait a couple years for them all to figure it out. All while having to trust this process to dismantle a top 10 scoring offense, so we can get it to their version of a top 10 scoring offense.

Here's my issue... We saw this 2 years ago. Rex comes in and with pretty much the same defensive personnel, the defensive production falls off a cliff. Pundits spend how much time trying to figure out what went wrong? Now we have essentially the same offensive players (minus a few notable receivers) and we have to try and figure out why the offense is struggling. It's the coaching/scheme.. Plain and simple. Do coaches have their playbooks copywrited or something? Its like one staff leaves, the new ones come in and can't figure out how to do anything. Blame gets placed on the players, so we have to get new ones. Its a stupid cycle that is about as predictable as the changing of the leaves.

We're told to trust the process and should be all happy because we have lots of draft picks to build for the future. And I'm reassured every day by someone here that this time feels different. But here's my issue... The only process I see is a coach and GM that spent the off season cutting talent, to stockpile picks. And now using the playing season as a trial period to build depth. Is that a process to build a winning team or a coach and FO wasting a year while they figure out how to do their jobs? Draft picks rarely light it up in year one. So how can anyone reasonably say next year we're going to be good because we have all these draft picks. IF.. They draft well, maybe we're good in 3 years, assuming all the currently good players are still here, still productive, or replaced by equally good players. So yeah, you can build a solid team for years to come through the draft, but without solid veteran players to rely on, you're just filling holes you dug all the while rookies are being thrown into the fire and make more mistakes than plays usually. In the last 17 years we've seen every type of rebuild, restructure, baby making process imaginable. Perhaps this time is different, but I'm not sure anyone can fault any other fan for being skeptical, especially when we're seeing so many of the same mistakes being repeated. I don't know how anyone can look at current WR situation and think there's a plan there. And that's just one example, perhaps the most glaring, but it's only one example of the FO and HC doing something that you have to honestly stand back and say... WTF are they thinking. In the end, I don't know if its ego, ignorance, or some grand plan that we can't see yet. I just know that sometimes the more things change, the more they stay the same.

That's what I'm seeing. Defenses are stopping Shady and Tyrod can't make them pay with his arm. Whether its Tyrod, the receiving options he has, or both, it doesn't matter. The FO basically got rid of most of the talent at WR and went paper thin depth at the other positions. All I know is I'm sick of seeing every team in the league being able to field an NFL roster, but the Bills. The entire league is engineered to allow passing plays yet we have a mickey mouse passing game year in and year out. It's frustrating as hell. And for everyone excited because we have all those draft picks, you only need to look at Zay Jones to know that pinning your future hopes on all your draft picks being stars as rookies is risky at best.

These two quotes are baffling. How does a coach not really know his team at this point in the season? It seems like a cop out answer. And the offense is one dimensional because they can't pass, and that's why the run game is hitting a wall. Defenses are stacking the box and daring us to throw; we can't and the cracks in the roster are getting exposed. How can a coach say we need to run better when the pass offense is clearly the weakest part of the team?