Dan

I'd call that a reach, that he'll turn around. I just saw an interview and he said he felt like he must have broke a mirror when he was young - that's why he's got all this bad luck. Nothing at all sounding regretful for his BS actions. But, it'd be great to see Mort pop a blood vessel on camera.

I agree. That be worth it just for the shock value. I'd totally do it. I guess that's why I'm not an NFL GM.

Exactly. Why not develop a few linemen? I've thought of this a draft to develop players. So I thought with 10 picks, we'd get players in a variety of positions - hopefully favoring the Oline, and then let them develop under the FA we've brought in. All I can think is that, the consensus at OBD is that our line problems aren't as severe as we all think. It just seems odd that the vast, vast majority of the fans and media analysts see one area of need and the coaching staff see something completely different. I understand they know our players better than anyone, but it just seems odd that there's such an apparent huge difference of opinion.

I agree. I really kinda like this philosophy. And I've always thought this would be a "build for the future" draft and not a "get players that will start and excell next year" draft. However, I was hopeful we'd be getting linemen with potential that we could develop into starters for a few years. That's my only beef. I like the players we got, I like the philosohy, I just thought we'd target a different part of the team.

Not that I remember all the mock drafts. But, I think its fairly safe to say that no one on this board, nor the "experts" in the media had our draft looking like this. So, so much for all the mocks. I suppose in a few years I'll post again and let ya know who was right. Looks like everyone was wrong about our lines, as well (myself included in this one). I was really hoping for all linemen in this draft. Apparently, our lines are fine and our secondary has been the problem for the last several years. I'm just dazed and confused.

Why not. One more DB and one more WR and I think we're good to go.

You, sir, make alot of sense. Unfortunately, the Jets, as of today, seemed to do very well.

I have to agree. That's why I'm so depressed tonight. Not really about the picks we got - these guys may be great. And I'm sure they'll fit into our team and produce. However, were there NO first day offensive linemen worth taking? I would feel so much better if we'd have taken at least one guy for the O line. I understand he may not contribute next year and all, but if anything, it at least shows that we understand the problems on this team and are willing to try and fix it. Now, maybe we'll take 3 OL guys tomorrow and then I'll change my opinion. But for now, I'm in my all to familiar Bills mode - crossing my fingers and hoping things work out. I guess I just saw us as having the 8th pick and then so many others that we'd of had at least one new guy with alot of promise on the OLine to develop y now. So, here I sit still in wait and see mode - fingers crossed on one hand; beer firmly grasped in the other. In Marv I do trust. But, for the first time this off season, I'm a little concerned.

exactly. How can you pass to streaking recievers if you're on your back? This is getting depressing.

I'm officially depressed now.

I'd take 1 - #1 guy over 2 - #2 guys any day. If that makes any sense at all.

I've been fairly optimistic and in favor of most all the Bills off season moves, so far. However, if we chose a QB in any round, I'll be sorely depressed. I'm even concerned about taking Davis. Sure we need a TE; we have for a decade. However, without a line, how mch of a difference can he make? I suppose if we can get great linemen further down in the draft, I could see the reasoning in it. But, I don't claim to have near enough knowledge to judge 2nd, 3rd or 4th round offensive line talent.

I have a dream.. and that is pretty much it. To choose between those three would be euphoric. Plus it'd be great reading all the posts by people complaining that Marv screwed up by not trading down (or by not taking Hawk in that scenario).

I agree, other than the first 2 games, I think we have a great schedule. Home games in Dec. and all 1pm starts are both good for us. And even starting at NE isn't so bad, because they'll have zero film to study on our new offense. So it may be our best shot at them. And Miami may still be questionable at QB in week 2. So, I can even find silver linings in those two games.

I wouldn't doubt it at all. I have a friend that's considering moving to DC and they're looking at a Condo for over $2000 per month. I have no idea where it is or the size. But, I couldn't imagine moving there with those prices.

When I worked in NYC 4 years ago, my boss had just bought a 360 sq.ft. apartment for $660,000. (At least that's what he told me.) He was quite pleased with the "find". Now, I know it's not DC; but, I've always heard that DC and Manhattan real estate were on par with one another. So he may not be exaggerating as much as we may think.

"Aiello adds that the league is putting together a 'best practices' model that will give guideance to small market teams on ways to maximize the money they can make." Am I the only one that sees this document as becoming something that could force the Bills to increase the number of luxury suites, sell their stadium naming rights and raise ticket prices, parking fees, beer prices, etc. OR move? If a team doesn't follow the "Best Management Practices" then they're cut out of the revenue sharing deal. Generally, that's why you develop a BMP policy. Its a way of saying this how we think everyone in our association should operate, and if someone doesn't operate by following these policies, then they can't be in our association. Let's face it the Bills don't do alot of things that otherr teams have done to make more money. Maybe the other owners are tired of Ralph complaining when he has some of the lowest ticket and concession prices in the league.

I agree. A very interesting tidbit. There's definitely more to all this than we can see on the surface. And this theory could have some validity in the mix.

I think there's alot more to all this than any of us may be aware of. From reading the news clips, its seems like there's a few possibilities: 1. If Ralph wills it to his daughter, she pays bigtime taxes. Therefore, that plan is probably not a plan. 2. If Ralph sells the team and the new owner moves the team, they don't get the same sharing deal as everyone else. So the Team is no longer worth $700 million, It's worth substantially less. 3. If Ralph sells to local investors and they keep the team in Buffalo, they' have to meet certain qualifiers to get full sharing. They supposedly can't meet these qualifiers in Buffalo, therefore the team is worth much less. Essentially, as I'm seeing it, the Team is ESTIMATED to be worth $700 mill. However, that's based on the revenue sharing deals and TV and all this stuff I don't completely understand. So, if the new deal goes through and Ralph keeps the team in Buffalo, the actual value of the team may be several 100 million less. That's a loss of 2-300 million, and that's probably what Ralph's worried about. However, he could move the team himself and retain that full estimated value, if not gain value. Another thing you have to consider in all this is legacy. At a certain point, you've made your money, you live well, your family lives well. So money is less of a concern and your interests become more of a "I want what I built to be here for ever". That could possibly be at the heart of wanting to keep the stadium with his name, as well as keeping the team in Buffalo. I'm certain, Ralph doesn't like the idea of working his whole life to keep the Bills in Buffalo and building this great legacy, just to see it sold and moved and everything he's worked for and been a part of for half his life is gone.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Our biggest problem last year was coahing. It was miserable! Granted, the players need to play better and definitely we need to revamp the lines; but the single best thing we've done this off season was get a new front office and coaching staff. Even if we made no other changes, I'd feel optimistic.

But if those 7 supposedly better players are not needed by your team, why take them? We have 9 WRs right now, should we draft a WR just because he grades out at a certain position?

Exactly what I've said in the past. Everyone says trade dow nand take these guys. But not at #8! But, what if no one wants to trade with us?? Then we can't pick these guys because its too high in the draft? I almost want Marv to pick Justice or Bunkley at #8, just to watch some of these guys bust a blood vessel.

I agree, I'm defintely liking many of the moves Marv and Co. are making. There's nothing flashy, but for a team that's supposedly done nothing in FA, we've signed 14 free agents (according to what I read). Signing 14 guys and still plenty of cap room - that seems unrealistic. And lets not forget the biggest moves - new front office, new coaches, new philospohy. I'm still taking a wait and see approach, but I definitely feel more optimisic about our future than I did 2 or 3 years ago. I'm not sure about the whole communicating thing. I don't watch much national media any more. So I have no idea (nor care) how we look in their eyes. I'm definitely in the camp of hoping we take a lineman in first round. I know there could be alot more flashy or exciting picks. But, we all know our lines are miserable, so why not make a statement and actually do something about it? That's how I see it. Although some line guys have been brought in, I doubt any of them are going to be the final solution we've been waiting for. So, more help would be great in my mind, not only for possibly finding starters, but also just for depth. Also, I think taking a lineman sends a serious message that Marv and Co. know what's wrong with this team and they're going to fix it. That's something I haven't seen at OBD in quite some time. And, I agree, this site absolutely rocks! I moved into my new house and for over a year had no internet at my house. I was miserable! because I couldn't log in and read all the crap being said each day. some good, most bad - but I enjoy reading the negative posts for some sadistic reason. Last season without TBD was the worst season I've endured since 2001, when I pretty much missed that whole season for possibly obvious reasons. I leave you with this thought - for the last several years, this board was abuzz with optimism and talk of playoffs, even the Superbowl. Each year the Bills shocked everyone by sucking like an hoover. This year, the board is abuzz with pessimism and talk of getting the 1st pick in '07. Maybe that means the Bills will shock them again and actually be good. Its a nifty little negative correlation theory that gives me hope.

I absolutely agree. I hope that Gibson got a 4 year 40mill deal. It would defintely go a long way to legitimizing Marv as a GM. Come on Marv sign some big, inflated contracts. Get 'er done!

As far as dropping passes go, he's not even close to being in Reed's league. So, if dropping passes is cause to cut a guy, he should be the first to go. I'm not saying Price was a great receiver. I'm just saying that as far as receivers go, he wasn't the worst of them. He had nearly 100 catches for 1200 yards in his last year here. So how can you say he completely sucked and shouldn't be playing? I still say his biggest problem was poor coaching. As I recall, alot of players sucked it up for GW and didn't seem to give their all. And now, after a few cuts, I think he's likely to have something to prove and will likely play alot tougher than before.