Dan

This post is definitely an example of idiocy in its purest form. We have the running back with the 5th most rushing yards in the league (you'd think a bright spot in an otherwise dismal few game stretch) and people actually want him cut from the team. And what truely makes this idiocy at its finest... the 2 "bad" plays being used as an example of is why he needs to go... are an 8 yard 1st down run and a 56 yard shovel pass. Brilliant! And this... is exactly why I read posts on this board. You can't make this kinda lunacy up.

Didn't he scramble for a touchdown late in the Jets game on 4th and 6 from the 12 yard line to pull us to within a score? I think that'd classify as field awareness. One example - good enough.

We all have man love for Leinart. He is, afterall, the greatest QB in the game today and will lead the Cardinals to a SuperBowl win for the next 10 years.

Exactly. and right or wrong.... it's effort. And I applaud any effort to fix the mess. Mistakes are excusable, inaction is not.

I completely agree. And what I like most about it... 1) It shows the coaches aren't happy with what they're seeing either and they're not afraid to do something about it. 2) It shows they realize that although JO hasn't been playing well, they understand that putting all the problems on one scapegoat isn't the solution and you can't just plug in a new QB and solve the offensive problems. Now, hopefully they'll do something about that Cover-Who defense.

Well, we can certainly get worse. As bad as our line play has been, I still think its better than last year's. However, does it matter if it gets worse? In other words, what's the difference in finishing as we are and having a 5-6 win season; or making the changes (having it blow up) and getting worse and we have a 3-4 win season? On the flip side, the moves could play out and give us less need to draft a LT and we could still finish with 5-6 wins. Definitely a plus in my book.

Maybe we can get the crowd to yell everytime a safety is baiting JP to throw to Evans as well.

I was going to post my ideas for bye week moves. But, they beat me to it. IMO, 2 things will greatly improve the offense. 1) this is it. Shake up the Offensive line and try to get a better lineup, or at least a lineup that is less bad. It's clear what we have hasn't been working. 2) shake up the play calling. Currently, its too, too, much too, way bad predictable. And we need more TE passes, and longer bombs (even if they don't work and JP overthrows the field). The offense has shown some real signs of life, but the they always break down. And I think that's largely because opposing defenses don't have to guess. When its 3 and 8, JP is throwing and its going to Evans at about the first down marker. You have to make them guess and we currently don't do that. I think 2 relatively small changes are 2 easily done things, that could easily lead to better results.

Remeber seeing him run down field at full speed to hit someone. Great!

Agreed. But, lets not put the cart before the horse. Why worry about depth, when we don't have solid starters yet? PS. If this move works and Peters plays well, I vote him for most versatile player the Bills have ever drafted award. What position has this guy not played in Buffalo?

Brilliant! Immediately following that play, I remember thinking... can't wait to see the posts about Willis' lack of speed and how he should be cut because he can't break the long run. It took longer than I expected, but its nice to know some things remain constant. Pissing on the one bright spot we have on offense is absurd.

Agreed or snap it to McGehee. That play goes down as perhaps the dumbest play I've seen, period. It was at that point, that I knew without a shadow or a doubt, we'd lose the game. The coaches gave up on the offense, and it wasn't long afterward that the players gave up on the coaches. From there, everyone was just going through the motions to get to their vacation time.

Friggin hilarious! I really mean that. I laughed good. Good stuff man. Good stuff.

I knew we agreed with each other. Tomorrow, we find new coaches.

No way I could have the patience to look all that up. All I'm saying is that if there's one, only one, top tier linemen available; we need to make sure we get him. Because not getting a good offensive line in this team has reached the point of absurdity. By the way, I really do agree with you that we should keep Nate if possible. I just really don't think we should over pay for him. We have alot of holes on this team. And I know that Nate leaving potentially creates another one, but there are far greater ones, even if Nate is gone.

I reject the notion that all good players will be re-signed and none available. However, if all good players are indeed signed and we cannot secure top draft picks; then by all means, I agree, lets give it all to Nate.

Hence, I say spend the money on a lineman ... not on a CB.

Why is the rest of the league can somehow magically find offensive linemen, but it's impossible for us to find them?

... you get a good offensive line.

If the average was $5.3mill, then by definition, some make less and some make more than that. Therefore, the #10 probably makes a fair amount less than 5.3mill. Hence, if NC is offered less than that, its not saying he's top 20; its saying he's in the bottom of the top 10. I, personally, think the 6 mill with 30 guaranteed as you suggest would be horribly overpaying for an average corner. In a contract year, such as this, he's arguably playing as well as he ever will. And his play for the last 1.5 years has been a touch above average.

I'm pretty sure Bret Favre, himself, could line each of the players mother and pimp slap them on the 50 yard line during pregame warm ups.... and our guys still wouldn't come out angry. Honestly, when was the last time this team played with fire and beat up on someone? I think its impossible.

I feel your pain. It's tough. Every year is just another series of let downs. Here we are again, still October, and our season is effectively over. Even if we run off the next 5 games and win em all... will we make the playoffs - no. The season is over. The QB sucks, the line sucks, the defense sucks, the coaches can't inspire a group from overeaters anonymous to eat a cupcake, the whole thing sucks. And now what, I have to see which team is out there that I may wish to see in the Super Bowl, while deal with all my friends wanting to know what's up with the Bills every week. It just sucks. I really didn't think we'd have a great, playoff type year. But, it woulda been nice to actually look like a professional football team. We don't even get that. All we get is one pathetic outing after another. Man does it suck being a Bills fan. With all that said. I'll watch every miserable play, somewhere deep inside, wishing, hoping for a glimmer. Living in my own private misery as everyone around me moves on with their winning teams and I draw further into my private dillusions that the Bills will someday turn it around. And that day they do, I'll have the singular joy of knowing I always believed.

I say we start breeding them. Because at the rate we're going that might be the quicker way to get a decent O line.

Coy Wire's not playing??

Coy Wire's not playing??