Dan

He caught it right about the 40 and ran to the 35 easily. That's where he should have slid down and called an immediate timeout. If so, we may have had 1 second on the clock, although I imagine the refs would have ran the second off before awarding the timeout. Either way, if he goes down immediately, we could easily get the TO and try about a 56-57 yarder. If he would have gotten down at the 35 and we successfully get the TO, its roughly a 51-52 yarder.

He did it and I thought that too (its out of character for him). What pissed me off even more was that there just wasn't anything we could do about it. He comes into our stadium, taunts our fans, and runs all over us.

And this is exactly why I love this board so much. Seriously. I love that someone knows this and is witty enough to pick it out.

I love the way he hands the ball off! Impressive stuff. No way Plummer gets those rushing yards.

I'm not sure any of our receivers are doing that. (at least from what I see) It appears they run their routes and wait for JP to hit them. If he rolls out, they may run with him, but I'm not seeing a whole lot of running back to the ball to help him out. Again, this is just my "off the top of my head" obsevation. I haven't specifically watched the games to see what the receivers are doing.

He was well covered with 2 guys on the one deep throw. I agree.

Perhaps. But, its hard to say watching the game on TV, I can't really see what he's doing on all the plays. I just remember thinking they needed to try something down field, and they didn't. He did get a few decent slants. And he got intereferred with on the next to last drive in the 4th, that of course wasn't called.

I would suggest it was our play calling that took him out of the game. We only went deep once. Everything else was short and underneath routes.

I agree they do deserve some credit. However, who rotates with Schoebel? And, someone else can comment on the salaries? I don't know how that stacks up. Point still being, you're comparing the production of 2 players against the production of 1 player and saying that he sucks. How can you conclude that he is so bad, when he's doing the equivalent job of 2 people?

Ok. I'll try not to. But, they blew several calls and it definitely made it harder for us to win. Granted, the playcalling and coaching prior to the half didn't help us either. I was screaming at the half, that those points would probably cost us the game. And at face value they did.

Yes I can.

True. It's definitely possible. But, how much credibility does the call have if the guy within 5 yards of the play doesn't call it, but a guy ?? some greater number of yards away, whose primary responsiblity is watching other aspects of the play, makes the call? And then there's no conference to see what the guy right beside the call saw. I'm tellin you, they just blew this call. Plain and simple.

The D is young as well.. We're starting 3 rookies. Who's the old guys? Fletcher, Spikes and ??? True we did lose. How do they have zero control? I'm not sure where or how you draw that conclusion.

Not that I saw. That was my point. I never saw anyone signal tip, so who thoguht it was tipped? Upon review, there was a sidejudge, almost right beside the play - I'd say about 2-4 yards down field. He was in great position. And all he signaled was no catch.

Hey that post was clearly (or so I thought) in jest. Give me some credit.

Are they throwbacks or what? They're not their normal home Jersey, so how are they wearing them? And yes, go ugly they are.

DirecTV and the NFL blacked out the game, so there'd be fewer people seeingthe rim job the refs gave us. Tha's the connection.

But it wasn't tipped. So, that's not an issue. The refs were not signalling that it was tipped, either. ( I just reviewed it on the DVR. Tasker said it was the "official rule" on the field, but the official on the sideline right next to the play did not signal that it was tipped.) So, how can you sit here and say that was a perfectly legitimate call by the refs? They obviously got it wrong and yet I should conclude that its no big deal? Perhaps if that was the only call in the game they got wrong, I could. But that was one of several - all in favor of SD. So how can you say the refs did not influence the outcome of the game in the favor of SD?

Don't forget the extra time out for SD and the failure to start the clock before the half.

Just to add about the Reed noncall. Why wasn't the flag thrown for PI and then a huddle with one ref saying it was tipped? There was no flag, because the Ref didn't think or didn't want to call PI. The Evans noncall was the first down play. The Price noncatch was 2nd down. And the Reed noncall was third down. The pass to Evns was easily catchable. It may have appeared uncatchable because the defender ran into Evans and completely threw him off his route.

Toe in, heel out. I agree. I can say ok they got that right. Although I don't really agree with it. If Price hops up (off is toe), rather than just come down its a completed pass? The nonPI on Reed; I can definitely blame the refs on. Its their job to wath the game and know what's going on. The ball wasn't tipped and yet they "thought" it was. You say it looked tipped to you - live. To me, it didn't. That's a call you have to conclude the refs screwed. Before either of those, however, what about the pass to Evans. The defender clearly ran into him forcing him off his route. How is that acceptable? I know they both have a right to go after the ball, but the defender can't run through the receiver to get the ball, no more than the receiver can.

I'm not saying its just us. All I'm saying is in this game, on this day, the refs clearly called the game in SD's favor. I agree, they blow a call or 2 here and there and it all usually evens out. But on our series in the 4th quarter: 1st pass, Evans is bumped and forced off his route clearly before the ball is there. No Penalty. 2nd pass, Price comes down with his toe in bounds, then his heel lands out. No catch. (I'd actually, give that to the refs, if you want). 3rd pass. Reed is clearly interferred with before the ball is there. No penalty. The claim the ball was tipped??? That's one series, 2 key plays. All went in favor of SD. And 2 were very obvious PI calls, that in most any other game or situation are called. But today they weren't.

Purposefully, or not; they did it. That's all I know. Did Shotty stick a wad of cash in Hockalugee's pants? Did the league make the decision? Do the refs just hate being in Buffalo so they blow calls? I don't know, I just know that no way was that game called fairly. Even my wife, who only casually watches the games was questioning many of those calls/non calls. When she notices it, its pretty damn obvious.

Dude, when you're arguement is: he's good, but these TWO guys, together, are just as good; you're not making you're point. When it takes 2 guys to equal the play of 1 guy, that's the definition of the 1 guy being pretty darn good.

And then it continued in the second half.