Dan

Apparently Whitner sucks. Trent is the man, although many un-named posters still pine away for JP to start. Peters blows. Kelsay rocks. Evans is below average. What else..... oh yeah, the refs hate us.

No way taunting gets called there. I'm surprised they called it even with Whitner's hit. Maybe the refs dislike the showboating as much as we do?

That, right there, is the question. Why they abandoned the defense that held Trent in check all day? And what can/will Buffalo do in the upcoming weeks when other teams copy what the Raiders did?

No problem. If you're like me, you're still experiencing mild shock from watching our team score 17 pts in the 4th quarter and somehow find a way to ein a game they looked like they were trying to lose. Wow. what a game!

My mistake. I just re-read the initial post. I misunderstood it. I retract my earlier comment.

Is Buffalo in the NFC now?

Looks like Denver is about to squeak out another one. Man, I'm starting to dislike that team.

Seriously... we go 3-0 for the first time in 16 years. We come from behind in the 4th quarter to do it. And you spend all afternoon ragging on Whitner because he missed one tackle? Please, just enjoy the win, enjoy being in first place in the division, and enjoy life a little. There'll still be plenty of time to find fault in the team later in the week and season.

After having the ball for something like 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. Unbelievable.

Does Denver have anyone that can play on defense? Another crazy game!

True. But a big part of why Edwards looked bad early on was due to the pressure and hits he was getting from his blindside. Let's not sugar coat it - Peters did not have a good game. He played well enough at times, surely. However, he was far from a probowl, top 5 OT. I'm sure he'll get back into his game soon enough, but for this one day, he looked bad.

3-0 looks darn good!

I must admit, it's looking more and more like that hold out is costing him pretty significant money. He's looked remarkably average in his first 2 games back. Not that he can't or won't' turn it back around; but as of now he's looking far from a top 5 OT. The good thing is we're still winning while he gets his feel back for the game.

I gotta admit... in year's past that would have been game over for the Bills, and I thought it was. It's soooooo nice to have this team prove me wrong. They have a ton of heart and it shows on the field.

Nonsense. It was noted just last week that most coaches would prefer to defer the opening kickoff, if they win the coin toss. They changed the rule this season (I was unaware it was a rule before that you couldn't), but the announcers said you'll seem most teams that win the toss will take the ball to start the 3rd quarter. So, can we please stop finding reasons to denigrate our head coach?

I was just about to post on that hit. I absolutely loved it!! Almost like he said.. oh no you don't just walk into my endzone - and put a helmet in his back.

Pretty damn impressive 4th quarter. In a game we should have lost, Trent and the Bills found a way to pull it together and get a win. Just incredible. I, literally, sat there watching for several minutes to make sure it really happened. I'm still not sure I just saw the Bills do that. Great job by Trent and the rest of the team.

I checked the 'Off the Wall' board just for the heck of it.... wish I hadn't now. Unbelievable that the question would even be thought, let alone asked.

No doubt. I'm worried until that final second ticks off - regardless of the score. The Bills are have invented some of the greatest ways to lose over the last few years that I've ever seen; no way I can sit easily until I see the final score is posted.

Just curious - as I've never had the privilege and honor of being inside the Ralph on gameday - do they do any sort of screening of drunk fans as they're entering the stadium? Or is all (or the worst) of the problems in the lot? As to an earlier comment, why would someone act as such? I would suggest immaturity and a complete lack of responsibility or knowledge of appropriate public behavior that's rampant in our society.

Excellent discussion going on here. Several good points have been brought up. However, I'm not sure that I see the staying successful long term as being much harder than the rebuilding. I would suggest that the most difficult part of staying successful is having the money to pay the players. Deciding which ones to keep should be fairly easy, because you see their contribution to the team first hand. However, having the money or convincing the owner to spend the money will almost certainly limit who can be kept. Which, I think, is why it's so important to bring in team-first oriented players. Those are the guys most likely to give you a home town discount, as opposed to the Clements-type that insist on testing the FA market and going to the highest bidder. I think this concern - having money to stay competitive long-term - was the primary factor in the Peters saga this summer. It's imperative for the Bills to sign guys to contracts and manage when those contracts expire and players need to be re-signed. If too many player contract expire at the same time, then you have too much cash going out in a single year. And this is probably an area where Brandon should excel. The initial talent evaluations have been done, the contracts negotiated, he'll just have to manage the ship and keep it from toppling. It will get interesting though to see how and if all the young guys are re-signed. This will be key to any long-term success of the Bills.

Are Cutler and Rivers really that good? It seems their names always come up in the talk of top young QBs. I guess I just don't get it.

You gotta love Langston Walker. His play on the field is speaking for itself and his "68 seconds" shorts are great. I look forward to them every week. This guy is funny: When asked if he was fully recovered from playing in the heat, offensive tackle Langston Walker played coy. “Being the well-conditioned athlete that I am, every thing is easy for me. But just to make sure that some of the other guys on the team don’t feel bad, yes, I did have a tough practice,” he said with a smile. Bills Notebook - Niagara Gazette

I was worried pretty much throughout the game. It felt good to come out with the opening drive for 7 minutes and score. Then watch the Jags go 3 and out. All was good. But by the 3rd quarter those good feelings were long gone and the dread of "oh no, they're blowin' it again" was all I could think. Even when the Jags got the ball back with 26 seconds left down by 4, I thought... please, please the game ain't over yet. I'm afraid it'll take several more solid wins before I have the kind of confidence I used to have in this team.

Actually... if you buy Kelly's analysis, it'd be closer to a B- .