Dan

Maybe so. Still not sure how that make Jenkins more than a so so NT except when he plays the Bills.

I can think of a few that deserve an F.

I guess he could go back to Osama. Sure

He's a team player. I bet he'd change his name if it'd help Obama smooth things over with Spain.

Agreed. I stated in another thread somewhere that we might as well blitz on every down. Dropping the LBs into coverage sure isn't helping anything. What do we have to lose?

And we have Punter Brian "the" Mormon who has been to 8 consecutive Pro Bowls. I think we're definitely on to something here. Viva la Mormons!!

Pretty much. 2.5 sacks on the year - 1.5 against the Bills. 3 tackles against the Bills - 1 against the Rams (wk10); 1 against the Chiefs (wk8).

I tried to revive it as well. What gives? Don't people learn. The first time they smited the Chroise, the board crashed. Upon a second smiting, the team has crashed. I would start a new thread, but if/when that was removed; I fear an end of days scenario.

Gotcha. I can completely agree with that. Amazing what a reality check the last few weeks have been.

I do appreciate your optimism. And fundamentally I'm hoping for just such an occurrence. However, given the Bills history of the last few years, I see... Brady Quinn will erase all doubts and look like Joe Montana, throwing for over 300 yards. Thigpen will be the second coming of Manning and have a career, all pro day. Nate Clements will finally have his breakout game with the 49ers and Patrick Willis will rack up career sack totals. And so on and so forth. Honestly, someone please tell me how every week some nobody has their career best, all Pro type day against us? Yesterday it was Cassell and a noname RB, before that it was The Jets NT, then there's Ginn, and so on and so forth. Just sad.

The part I didn't understand was where you're comparing a team that hasn't made the playoffs in nearly a decade to the Superbowl Champions. That seems a little much to me.

Hamdan Rocks! Bring on the Chroisen one! next....

May I remind you that JP has had his chance. Trent has now had his. It is now Hamdan time, baby!

I agree. So let's get his butt back on the field.

I would have pulled a Levy yesterday. By early 4th quarter nothing but 2nd and 3rd stringers would have been in the game. None of the starters seemed like they wanted to be in there anyway.

Agreed. Offensively, get a base set of personnel and run 75% of your offense out of it. Get rid of the Fullback. It's like we have 10 guys on offense, because I've yet to see him do anything. Same thing with the multiple Tight End sets. Again, you're just wasting positions with talentless players. On our typical run you have Lynch, Fullback, and 2 TEs. So now we're down to 8 guys blocking 11 with Lynch getting slammed. It's absurd. And just as you suggested, stop being so damn predictable. Use the no huddle a little to help establish a rhythm. Oh yeah, and go back to the original 5 linemen. Yeah fowler and Butler may suck, but they didn't suck as bad as Preston and Chambers or Preston and Whittle. Defensively, send guys blitzes more. We've tried dropping the LBs into coverage and what has it done? Nothing. They back up and players run crossing routes in front of them for guaranteed positive yards everytime. They might as well be rushing the QB. Screw all this zone crap. Man the guys up, pressure the QB with all the LBs and let schit fly. Yeah they'll give up a few big plays. But so what. Give up a long 9 minute TD or give up pa quick 2 minute TD, either way they score. Finally, call a few of the guys out and bench them next week. These guys are playing gutless, no heart football. Maybe give them an incentive - $1000 for every hit that makes a player drop the ball, $10,000 for every concussion they cause. Something.

Completely agree. They need to change the play calling up. I still find it dumbfounding that we're the only team in the league that has no idea what a slant pass is. 3 steps, hit a receiver slanting over the middle. How hard is that? Also, it may be hard to say or read, but... put Fowler back in there. Is it coincidental that the pass blocking and Trent's confidence have tanked since Fowler was replaced? Maybe. But it can't hurt to get him back in the game and find out. Lord knows Preston's not doing much either. So how much worse would it be?

No offense, but what the crap are talking about? The Giants are the Superbowl Champs and they haven't lost 3 games all year, let alone 3 in a row.

I wholeheartedly agree with every word of this post. Well said. It's this lack of effort that's most frustrating. It's one thing to get beat, but it's another thing all together to just give up without even trying. Kinda like the run game. Who knows how good it could be, but when you give Lynch 14 carries in an entire game you're not even trying. There was no need to abandon the run, but they did - again. I've given Jauron and the staff a lot of leeway, but it's wearing thin fast with piss poor efforts like this. I agree; I've not given up on the season yet. But, it's getting harder and harder to watch.

Exactly. Stopping the run isn't so much an issue. It's stopping a crossing route. Or a 3rd and 7, line up 10-15 yards off the line, let the WR catch the ball and tackle him after 10yds. Why with all these DB we can't play good press coverage is beyond rediculous.

What gets me is that you watch most other teams play and you see guys running all around, diving at the ball and hitting players. The WRs and RBs always look like they're running full speed. But watch the Bills lately.... if there's a tipped ball; none of the Bills players dive for it. The WRs seem to be jogging through their routes, no running. Half the tackles on defense, they're just chasing the guy out of bounds. There's just no fire. That game today looked like it was all but a walk through. Just sad really. You wait all week to see a good game and all you get is a half-hearted attempt by the players. There was once a thread about players that read this board. I wonder if any actually did, would they even care when they see a thread like this? Or would they react the same way they seem to do on the field and just give up reading after the first post? It's just sad.

All I hear is 2 old men rambling on about something while a game is being played. They have become the worst announcing crew in sports.

I don't need no stats to know we suck.

Are you suggesting the Dline play Oline and the Oline playing on the Dline? Cause I like it.

Herm has Thigpen and ??? Lewis has Palmer and Chad and Housyermama.