Dan

Britney Spears wishes she could fill an 80,000+ stadium. I agree, musically the last few decades haven't been stellar for them (although Steel Wheels was pretty good). However, that doesn't mean they're overrated or without talent. The comparison to the Spice Girls is a good one because that's exactly my point. You have scores upon scores of bands that come out, put out 1-3 albums, with a few "hits". But how many have the staying power of the Stones? If I'm not mistaken, they just had the highest grossing tour of all time, a year or 2 ago? The Spice Girls would generate more buzz, but only because the Stones have never left.

I like it. Or the Niagra "little blue" Pills! We play strong for 4 hours long!

I would say this thread may have become the most laughable one I've ever seen here. The Stones have been touring for over 50 years, have multiple rock anthems, set the standard for arena rock, have sold several hundred million records, with 20ish studio albums, have played for 100's of millions if not billions of people, have influenced more performers than any of us have even listened to, and yet they're over rated. The cynicism here is one thing you can always count on. Gotta love it. I can understand someone saying they don't care for their music but to call them over rated is an entirely incorrect assessment of the band's career.

It does suck having a President that admits to making mistakes and says he wants to do better. I hate that. It would be so much better to have a President hide from the Press and not admit to anything good or bad. I wish all our elected officials would just shut up and always assume they're right regardless of the outcome.

I did like that quote (obviously). If only we could get guys like that to post more, and a few select others to post less.

I thought that interesting as well. So I did some googling. You'd think that'd be an easy thing to find, but not so much. I found one site, a fan site, so not really trustworthy; that says over 30million sold. Then found another Bio on Rockphiles that claims 35 million sold. So, I'm going to put the estimate at closer to 30 million than 12 million - it just makes more sense. I knew she was trained in opera and actually has a very good voice. Did not know about the 4 consecutive grammys for female rocker chick of the year. Either way, Katy Perry has quite a bit of ground to make up, IMO.

That's how you'd describe the greatest Rock n Roll band of all time? Unbelievable. The Stones tour to this day, and still draw more people than any "relevant" act you could list. Not to mention, you (and others) don't want aging rock bands, but you're fine with AC/DC. How does that figure? And as if that weren't enough, you'd be happy with a 40 year old Mo-town band? Unbelievable. The Super Bowl is the single biggest event year in and year out and in the world of music there are perhaps no 2 bigger acts than the Stones and the Boss. Old or not, either one sells out any sized arena any place they play on the planet. Maybe next year we can get Justin Timberlake and everyone can be happy. Honestly, I'm certain people here complain just for the sake of complaining because there's no way you're gonna say dump the Stones in favor of a mo-town band and actually mean it.

I think FO staff even get them. Also, I recall a story where Polian gave one to Edge when the Colts won. Despite Edge going to Arizona, Polian said he was instrumental in the team that won the SB.

Come on, now. Really?

I agree. Lynch definitely got his yards on his own. No doubt. I know it's unpopular, but IMO, the run game improved because Preston replaced Fowler. I'm not saying Preston should be our starter next season. I'm just suggesting that he seemed to be better than Fowler. Funny, but since Jauron got his stay of execution, I care much less about any of it. I have zero confidence that any player via the draft or FA will change a single thing. We'll still see a marginally competitive team that folds like a cheap suit in the tough games. Maybe I'm wrong, but until this teams proves otherwise, next season is something I'll watch but have no hopes for.

I think that's a good point, and we'll never know the reality. But, I could easily see the Obama team calling them up and giving them the option to withdraw with dignity or be removed in disgrace. Allowing someone to save a little face is quite common. Either way the person is out and probably for the best. I would agree, it does speak to the transparency of the process. Regardless of how these problems are coming out, the point is they're coming out now rather than 3 years from now. Congress can debate them and in some instances look past them, in others, not.

The problem is not the size of the line, but how the game plan is designed around that line. Our brilliant staff have put together one of the largest offensive lines in football, yet they insist on running an offense designed for a small, quick group of linemen. So, the question is... will we get new linemen, will we change our offense to a power run/ball control offense, or will we continue to fuddle around reading football for dummies?

Pretty much how life works. Same as.... if your a big shot bank or auto maker you get billions, while the small fish get tossed aside and go bankrupt.

No idea. These guys say so many things so many different ways, I wouldn't begin to remember. Although I would agree, paying taxes is pretty easy or should be. I assumed it was $140k due to all the late fees/penalties. But, who knows. As I alluded to in my post, somewhat in jest, if you have a career politician who's only problem is a $100k or so in tax evasion; I say take him. That's relatively minor compared to all the other illegal activities our wonderful congressmen get away with on a daily basis. The single biggest change anyone could bring to DC would be terms limits for congressmen. Period. Until they do that, nothing will truly change.

No the offense and defense doesn't have an equal chance to score, I agree with you there. However, when you consider that the defense can score or they can stop the offense and get the ball for their team, it becomes much closer to equal. Hence, you see stats along the lines of what I posted - 43.4% of teams that lost the coin toss win the game. So, how unfair or uneven is it when you have a 43.4% chance of winning? Yeah, it's a bit of a disadvantage. I agree and the historical numbers agree. However, do those odds necessitate changing the rules? I'd say no. The biggest problem I have here is this gets wrapped up into the whole notion that everything in our life has to be fair or even. Life isn't fair. You had a chance to win in regulation. You have a chance to win in OT. Is it always fair/even - no. Home teams, teams have better players, some teams cheat, some teams pay off refs, some teams have better coaches - there's all sorts of advantages for teams during a game. It's never even.

Thanks for re-linking to that! I've tried to take time away from here since the season ended for my own sanity and missed the original thread. Great stuff. I really hope he gets a legitimate shot at the #2 job. He's earned at least that. Hamdan Rocks!!

Why is it so unfair? History disagrees with you. The NFL has had 325 overtime games since the rule was adopted in 1974. The results: Both teams have had possession 235 times (72.3%). The team that has won the toss has won 169 times (52.0%). The team that has lost the toss has won 141 times (43.4%). 223 games were decided by a field goal (68.6%). 86 games were decided by a TD (26.5%). One game was decided by a safety (0.3%). There have been 15 ties (4.6%). US Today

To be fair, he was probably too stoned to realize they were taking pictures. But, I agree with you. The largest problem with the politically correct, 24/7 news world in which we live is that no one can speak honestly about anything. Everything has to be black and white, good and bad. And once something is determined to be bad, well you're screwed if you do so much as suggest that it's not.

Is it better that they waste their lives playing video games? Yeah pot is illegal and blah, blah. But, people waste their lives away doing all sorts of things. I call that their choice. But, that's just me. Potheads need a role model too, ya know.

Well, for one, you can't score on defense in baseball. In football, the defense can score points.

Here's another thought... maybe these are the "good" guys? That is... the only knock is a little tax evasion. Its gotta be pretty well impossible to hire someone that has worked in DC for more than a few years and hasn't done anything illegal.

Wow, you really did have high hopes for the guy. Would he have to wave his hands during this incantation, or would his words, alone, be good enough?

There's your problem right there. Stop listening to Carter. Almost every coach in every game this year has deferred when given the chance. Can we please stop this nonsense that deferring the kickoff, means you lose the game.

Thank you. In overtime, the game is not at all won/lost on the flip of a coin. It's called playing the game. All three phases must perform. Look it up, plenty of overtime games result in one or more offensive possessions for both teams. So, how can you say the winner of the coin toss wins the game? Overtime is fine. If you want to fix something.... fix all this stupid over-officiating that puts the game in the hand of the ref all too often. My sister summed it up good yesterday after the game, "Perfect Super Bowl for the year of the referee."

For a time in the 80's Pat Benetar was absolutely it. There were at least 2 or 3 girls in every highschool dressed just like her. I'd say, Katy has a ways to go.