Dan

Yes, because we were all so sure Jauron would be fired after last season's 7-9 collapse. No way things could stay they same after going 0-6 in your division and witnessing a total collapse of the team. And, yeah, I have all the confidence in the world that Ralph is bringing in Cowher, Hlomgren, etc. Why wouldn't he? I mean it's so obvious. Yes, hoping for a 1-15 season is so much fun. Nothing like a good beat down each Sunday to make me want to laugh and have good times... good times. Really?

I'm starting to think we should try that new fangled Wild Cat offense. Only I'm thinking we direct snap it to Fitzpatrick or Hamdan. Then they could either hand it off or throw it depending upon the situation.

As if being able to run and jump makes you a man. Sure. I couldn't help but while reading that. So yeah put my little weak out in the woods competing with some Neanderthal for food. I don't think it's even close. I'm eating everytime.

OK. Seriously, HR... screw the dude. What do you care if he likes/respects you? First thing, though, don't apologize for buying a 6er when he gave away a 30 pack. When he first complained about it, you should have told him to" off, you took my beer I took yours. You got a problem with it leave my alone." Nothing more really needs to be said in that situation. Screw all the apology, can't we all just be friends stuff. He doesn't like you, you don't like him. That's just the way it is. I say go about your business in the house and screw him. No need to talk to him, no need to even acknowledge he's there. Yeah its a little uncomfortable, but there's not much way around that now. As for the other guys, I say same thing. If you're going somewhere and they want to tag along... sure why not. But screw all this drivin Miss Daisy crap. Gas costs money. If they want rides they need to give up gas money, its as simple as that. Unless you're just bored and want to get out. The situation sounds pretty uncomfortable all the way around. But, from your description, you've done nothing wrong. So, screw the apology stuff. Just go about your business, spend time at the library or somewhere like that studying. And basically don't worry about them. They'll either come around or they won't. But, that's out of your control so no sense worrying about it. Some people you meet are just wipes. As others have said, it's just the way it is. Why waste your time with them. Oh yeah, and next time they want to have a "house meeting" or whatever to talk about their feelings and crap, tell them you didn't join a sorority. Why don't they just throw Legally Blonde in the DVD and all have a good cry or something? I mean, really, guys don't have meetings to talk about what's bothering them. They rag the crap out of each other over beer.

Agreed again. I didn't mind trying him at LT. Why not? And even then when he's not working out - supposedly in part because he couldn't keep up with the pace of the no huddle; lord knows we run that thing at break neck speeds - he was just cut. Seemed odd, to say the least. I was thinking... why not just keep him on as backup RT. If the situation arises, as it has, that he needs to see significant time at RT, then just go back to huddling up. Yeah it's maybe not ideal but its better than the alternative of having Scott or some other practice squad scrub filling in. I guess that's why we're not HC/GM material.

I've been sayin it since week one... put a big ole cast on his arm with some metal in it and let him just go out there and club people to death. Same for Whitner. Does he really need his thumb to hit people? Lord knows he's not intercepting the ball regardless of thumbs or not.

Completely agree. It's similar to preseason when the 1st string offense looked so horrible. Then suddenly, Fitz and Chroise come in and start throwing 20+ yard passes. As though suddenly the clouds opened and the defense parted. No, the starting QB just changed.

I completely disagree. Watch any marginally competent QB and compare his play to Trent. Trent drops back, looks, looks, pats, looks, tries to throw (or runs somewhere). If he did what all marginal QBs do; he would be much more successful. Drop back, look, throw (occassionally - look, look, throw). He's not decisive enough. That's his problem. I agree. His line is not going to give him 5 seconds to stand there and wait for a 50 yard route to develop. But, that's exactly why he needs to drop back and throw and stop all this looking around trying to figure out who's the most open guy out there. His line isn't giving him time to survey the field and think. So why is he trying to do it? Just throw the ball! If the receivers are running too deep; then that's on them. But, I refuse to believe that all the receivers are running 40-60 yard fly patterns on every play. He's had oppurtunities to go down field 20 yards or so, but isn't taking advantage of them for whatever reason. Either the coaches have beaten into his head to go through all his reads first then go back and throw to the best one; or he's doing it on his own. But either way, he needs to stop and just throw the ball.

Agree completely. I was firmly in the "get a LB" this past off season. IMO, Oline and LB were the 2 single biggest needs we had, easily. They addressed the line... sorta. But, did absolutely nothing to help the LB position. And low and behold the defense is suffering because of it. IMO, they should have kept Walker - as an emergency RT; funny how that would be beneficial now. And brought in a serious upgrade to Ellison. They did neither. Oh well. The season was fun while it lasted... I guess.

I would agree completely. The problem is simple, really. The Bills allow the defense to play the entire game within 10-15 yards of the LOS. With nothing but runs and dump passes, they never back the defense off. The first 2 games, the Pats* and Bucs backed off the line a little because - rightly so - they thought with TO and Evans, they had to worry about the long pass. But, it didn't take long for everyone to realize that Trent is nearsighted and cannot see a receiver 10 yards beyond the LOS. Because he just won't make the throw. So, everyone plays up and takes away all the underneath stuff and run game. Even with defenses almost begging him to try a long pass to a single covered WR, Trent will only do it 1-2 times per game. Essentially, the offense has to operate to perfection to be successful. Those 1-2 deep balls have to be perfect, all the underneath stuff has to be perfect, no penalities, and so on. Well guess what... they're not perfect and end up going no where. Until Trent grows a set or gets a pair of glasses and throws deep repeatedly, this offense will look as pathetic as it has. It's really as simple as that.

I'm sorry but what in the world would give you even the slightest inclination that the Bills will even score a FG in this game. The Bills have looked a slight better than a lower tier high school team with swine flu the last three weeks. There's absolutely no reason to think they can "get better" against the Jets. Pull over any 10 random people driving down the turnpike and suit them up. The Bills still lose by 2 scores, if they line up in a 3-4 set - one score if one of the cars is a family of 5.

I appreciate your optimism. But, you're talking about a shot at the big prize and that should be the goal. However, for now, I'm just hoping they can win another game. I guess my expectations have been lowered.

Quite honestly, who cares who they bring in. It's completely irrelevant. The problem on this team is 80% offense. The offense cannot score... period. You can't do much more on defense than hold a team to 2 FGs and keep the QB to 2 completions. Yet, somehow, we still lose? Yeah, the defense may suck with practice squad srubs coming in. But, unless the offense (Trent) figures out how to score more than 3 points a game, none of it matters. Let me put it this way... suppose we traded an injured Buggs for Ray Lewis (yeah I know stupid, but I'm using hyperbole to make my point). So, now we have Ray Lewis. Does that mean we can outscore the Jets? Unless they get a LB that comes in and breaks Trent's leg in practice, I really don't see how it helps.

I came to that realization about 2nd quarter of LAST week's game.

When did the league change the rules and make all these long throws legal? I don't get it.

Edwards has been on that team... what.. a week? And he's making circus catches for touchdowns. Our WRs are lucky to get an end around reverse. Man the Bills suck.

I'd agree that our players aren't as bad as they're playing. TO didn't suddenly forget how to run a route. We know Reed and Evans can catch the ball. Lynch and Jackson are more than capable backs. We have decent guards now. So, yeah, the entire offense doesn't need to be blown up. I think we could say the same about the defense as well. They have a core group of guys that can play as well. Of course they all need to stay healthy! What we're missing are the important pieces - Coaching, QB, LT, LB. I could easily see a quality coach coming in adding a few key players and changing this team around next season. Of course that all depends on the coach they bring in and what he does once he gets in. In no way, do I think we'll get a good HC or make smart draft/FA decisions. But I think if we did they could turn this team around in one season, ala the fins. The fins are in not a great team. But, anyone watching the game right now should be able to see what a good HC/FO can do. They look worlds better than the Bills and are headed in the right direction.

Trent should have been benched at the end of the 3rd quarter yesterday. The guy looks completely lost and absolutely unwilling to throw the ball. Think about it.. we have a QB that is literally afraid to throw the ball. I wouldn't have let Roscoe come back to the bench after the fumble. I would have called April over and told him to escort Roscoe to the locker room, get is gear and leave the facilities. That guy quit on this team in week one. I'd play as many of the rookie and second year players as possible from here on out, inlcuding on the Oline. This season is lost. It's a waste. No sense in even trying to salvage it. The only good that can possibly come out of it is for the young guys to get some experience and see what they can do. That way the next HC has a better idea of what he's got. I'd huddle up just for the sake of making the players look each other in the eye after every stupid play/penalty. Maybe someone would finally crack and punch someone else.

As much as I want Jauron and company gone, that is my primary concern. There's absolutely no way anyone currently on the staff is head coach material. So, what happens if you fir Jauron, give April or Fewell the interim job and then we win 3 of the last 5 or something stupid like that? So, I'm torn. I want desparately for Jauron to be gone. However, if his replacement is someone currently on the staff... well I guess I can wait till season's end. Either way, I really don't see it changing much. This season is completely lost regardless of who's the HC. Sucks. What are chances one of the top guys - Holmgren, Cowher, Gruden, etc. - come to Buffalo mid season? Not saying any of them would be hired at all. I'm just wondering more... how often you see a major coaching overhaul midseason? I can't really remember one.

I'd fire dick and have a contest to pick a Bills' fan from the stands to be coach for the week. Whomever they picked truly couldn't do any worse.

Trent's failure is in his unwillingness to even try. 20 seconds left, on the 40. He has 3 shots. Not once does he even attempt a pass 20-30 yards down the sideline. Not once does he even try to win the game. Yes, the odds were against him. But, any QB worth a damn tries to win in that situation. Trent... not so much. He's still perfectly content throwing underneath and hoping someone else can win the game.

He answered it like he plays... noncommital and indecisive.

I had to miss the 1st quarter today. First time in years... years.. I've missed part of a Bills game. Worst of all, it didn't bother me one bit. I wasn't thinking about getting a score update. I wasn't wondering if Trent could put something together. I just didn't care about the game at all. I got home just in time for the 2nd quarter to start. And within 30 seconds realized I didn't miss a single thing. First time I can remember that I've missed a part of a Bills game and feel like I really didn't miss anything. This team has moved so far beyond joke, beyond pathetic, beyond relevance. They're merely a bunch of guys running around wasting time until they can go somewhere else. Easily the worst "game" I've seen.

This team sucks complete ass. And, yes, Trent is a huge part of that. I don't know what I saw today.. but it was not a professional NFL starting QB playing out there. Add to it a completely inadequate coaching staff, no depth, no anything and this team is right where they belong at the bottom of the league.

So let's say someone roots against the Bills all season and they go 4-12. Great, right? But, then Jauron still doesn't get fired. Does this fan root against them next year too? At what point does this fan realize they're just bitter and hate the team they once loved? To the bolded point... if Jauron somehow turned it aroud and started having winning seasons, do we still need a new coach/GM/etc.? Maybe (Chargers with Martyball) but maybe not.