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I think so. It was close and borderline inconclusive. But, the ball does appear to change direction as it went by his leg. So, I'd say it did hit him... unfortunately.

I don't care what anyone says... that was a catch. He caught the ball on his fingertips. How is he supposed to pull it into his body and take his right hand off the ball to brace for the hit? He has to move the ball. But, at no time did he bobble or lose control of the ball. It hit his fingertips and he pulled the ball into his chest with one hand. It's physically impossible to do that without moving the ball. The question was did he at any time lose control? No. His left hand remained on the ball the entire time as he was pulling it in. It was a great catch. I suspect when Rexie gave the refs a few bills earlier in the game to get the mysterious too many men on the field, when no flag was thrown penalty; he slipped a few extra in the ref's pocket for later in the game. Speaking of that crap penalty. OK, so maybe the Bills had too many men on the field. I don't know, they never showed a replay. But, no flag was thrown. So, why didn't Rex have to throw a challenge flag to get the refs to make the call? It looked like he called them over, slipped some cash in their pocket, and they made a call. Did anyone actually see a flag?

It was on the Trent sack/concussion. Bell was in the background milling around holding his left arm up and grasping his forearm. It looked like he definitely hurt it. I fully expected him to be done for the day. So, I watched for him, but he stayed on the field. Not sure at all what it was all about; but at the time he looked injured. Of course, it may have been one of those "oh crap my guy beat me like a drum, I better act injured so no one thinks I just suck" moments.

See, you miss the entire point. How could you possibly follow the Bills in any shape or form, visit this forum regularly, and not realize that EVERY day is a good day to be critical of the Bills. I'm flabergasted! The Bills never do anything right, never achieve anything positive, and deserve nothing but ridicule and criticism. It seems half the people here are most upset about the game because we won and now they're afraid Jauron might get some good press out of it. God forbid, Jauron turn things around and we have a winning record and make the playoffs!!! That would mean he stays another year and we'll never make the palyoffs! (Of course that won't happen, but that's the concern.) So, please just bash the Bills and, of course, Ralph regardless of what happens on the field. I mean afterall it just makes you feel so good to always concentrate on the negative. Doesn't it?

I agree. He's needed the bench for a while. I was hoping he could work his way through it all. Afterall, he's still young in QB years. But, he's shown zero progress this season. If anything, he's regressed in every aspect. Will he get some of his poise back? I don't know. But, he's definitely gotten tunnel vision. He only sees what he's doing and not what other QBs are doing. You can see it in his play and hear it in his comments. How can an NFL QB say he's not had much experience with a 3-4 defense when every team in your division plays that? How can he say he's not a fan of the Bills, he's a player? How can he honestly sit there and tellus that he thinks every thing is fine when it so obviously isn't? He needs to step back and see what other guys in the league and on his team are doing. He needs to rethink his approach to the game. He needs a break. It'll either completely ruin his career or show him what he needs to do to improve. The choice is up to him. But, one thing's for sure, he's been steadily spiralling down the slope every week. Leaving him in to work out the problems was clearly not helping him. I truly hope the light comes back on and he gets back in there and starts to show that early promise he once did. But, I'm not holding my breath. We know Fitz isn't a long term solution. So, if not Trent, then after all these years we're back to square one with the most important position on the team. (unless they wise up and put Chroise in)

Getting knocked out for a week or 2 may be a blessing in disguise for Trent. The guy has lost all his confidence. His decision making has become slow as he's not seeing the whole field. He's looked completely afraid to throw the ball. He needs a few weeks to think about his game, to watch someone with a little more experience, to take a little of the pressure off him. The question will be... how does he respond?

Is it that the Bills are so good at finding these UFA/Practice squad guys or is it that the Bills are so bad they actually have to play a large number of UFA/Practice squad guys?

Voted You can say what you want about the circumstances, but 6 interceptions is a fine day any way you slice it. We're not voting on the Bills' run defense, we're voting on their pass defense. And yesterday Sanchez looked beyond incompetent - in part because our guys were getting pressure and flying to the ball.

The announcers said Whitner injured his ankle. So, I'm guessin his being "taken out" has more to do with him being injured than anything else.

I like Fouts for the most part. Kinda funny the way he put about 20 circles on the screen to show the Jets had too many defenders on the FG attempt. But, it was obvious he hasn't seen the Bills play much, if at all.

I'll take a helping as well. I didn't boldly post we'd get beat like a red headed step child; but I gave the Bills zero chance to win this game. It was a big win for exactly why you stated. I still have no faith they'll even get to .500 this year, but at least they beat a divisional opponent. I'll give them credit for that.

And Vince Young will throw for a zillion yards in the only perfect game ever... because he'll be in Nashville playing while the Bills will be in Memphis still looking for the stadium.

Exactly!!! Holy was I screaming. And then he does it again in overtime after the horrible refjob. The guy just doesn't learn. It's beyond comprehension that he can set up for a long FG, into the wind. Needless to say, I voted no.

I'm not in any way saying the Bills played a good game. Nor am I suggesting that Byrd is a great player. I'm just saying, he looked good today doing exactly what they said they drafted him for. Yes, he needs to improve. Yes, the LBs need to play the run better. But, its nice to see a young guy that's drafted to get interceptions get some playing time and actually get some interceptions. He had a good game, that's all. Sometimes we can see something shiny amongst the tarnished backdrop of our dispair.

Ball on the 50, 4:30 left in the game. They move the ball 20 yards and play for a 46 yard FG into the wind for the win. On that alone, he should be fired. How do you not try to get closer? We had a minute left and let the clock run down while running the ball once??

Fitzy didn't look too good, to me. Of course he probably didn't have much time with the 1st team offense preparing, so maybe you can cut him some slack. However, there were several times that I caught myself saying, "No way Trent attempts that pass." Anyone else think Trent throws to Nelson, behind the defender like that? Granted all his passes weren't great. But, I give him some credit for at least trying. That's more than I've seen from Trent that last few weeks.

I understand what you're saying. But, its funny that so many criticize Whitner because he never makes a big play; despite the fact that he's a technically solid player. Now we have a guy coming in making plays and still no credit? Come on, at leat give the guy credit for making some great plays. Yes, it'll take a few years to determine just howw good he is; but in 2 games... he's shown quite a bit.

Last season a hard hit on the head knocked Trent out and he's been in a daze ever since, unable to read defenses, and slow to deliver the ball. Maybe this is one of those times where another hard hit on the head straightens him back out and he gets his poise back?

Interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks.

Skins are punting. Chiefs block it (or so it appeared). Ball, on the block, bounces more forward than back. The Skin guy picks it up and runs in for the TD. Refs call it back and say illegal touching by the skins because the ball didn't pass the LOS. Cheifs ball at the 50. Why didn't the block count as a Chief touching it first? What am I missing? I don't get it.

The Bills play uninspired, apathetic football. The posts on this board have become increasingly uninspired and drone on about the same crap. Watching football sucks. Lately, reading this board sucks. This season sucks. That's the single worst thing about the current state of the Bills. They've taken the football season away. (I don't often do polls, so I got confused on the difference between the thread title/description and the poll title/content. So I just made them the same. As though anyone cares about my disfunctionality.)

Precisely. How often has Trent made a play at a critical point in the game? When has he ever elevated the performance of the players around him? Yes, the Oline looks bad. But that does not excuse the completely inept play from Trent. The guy doesn't even attempt passes. At least try. But no, 3rd and long, 4th and long and we still get checkdowns. Screw it. It's pointless to argue

Are you suggesting that the people that want Ralph to clean house and fire Jauron, Modrak, and Guy are in the minority? IMO opinion, the message represents the area and the fanbase quite well. We're all upset with the state of the franchise and waiting for Ralph to clean house. So what's wong with saying that? Nothing in the message is demeaning or disrespectful. He simply states, it's time for a change of direction - clean house and lets start over. I would suggest that no one is going to raise the money for the "positive" billboard is because you can't find more than 2 or 3 people that want to see the Bills continue... with their continuity. I, for one, applaud this guy. He did something more than just complain.

If I were a maid in this hotel, I would seriously quit. No telling what's going to be left behind.