Dan

Are they seriously just throwing away a perfect season? Horrible, IMO.

If Lynch is traded, who's the 2nd RB next year? Or do we draft another RB with the pick we get for Lynch? Yeah, this makes so much sense.

Despite the fact that Poz had 3 games in a row with an int., is a solid tackler, and is responsible for getting the defense in position. All while coming off a broken arm in week 1. Yeah, good guy to rag on.

Corrected. Some, of us have very much appreciated his play for the last 9 seasons.

I'd go with a solid 5. Not bad, but not good. But, I'd give Trent and Fitzy solid 3.5 and 4.5, respectively. So, Brohm's gets another week to lower his mark.

True. 2nd and 19 let's run it, that'll trick 'em. Pathetic.

Overvalue our opinions much? If the Bills' coaching staff is spending even 5 minutes of their time on this board, much less considering the many inane opinions, I'd be shocked.

I would completely agree. My whole point is things can look really bad or look pretty good; it all just depends on how you want to see it. But, until the new GM/HC is hired, we really have no idea how this team will change. Even with the new hires, it may be several months before we see what the new plan is, if any.

My sister gave me a framed picture of us at the HOF enshrinement this past August, with the Bills helmets (old school and new school) on the bottom along with the date and enshrinee names. We had a great trip and that was an awesome present.

Well, that is a pessimistic spin. However, the flip side is... things may be better than you think. Yes, the Bills need a starting QB. But, perhaps Brohm has matured and learned something sitting on the sidelines. Perhaps he becomes a decent starter. Perhaps there's one or more FA pickups this offseason that give us a decent starter while a yong draft pick matures. Maybe we only need 1 offensive tackle. In the very limited time that Butler played at RT, he seemed good. Maybe with w decent training staff he finally stays healthey for a full season. And with Bell or Merideth as backups, perhaps we havea little depth there. So, draft the top LT in the draft and a big hole is filled. OK. so we need an upgrade at 1 LB position. Seems like one draft pick could solve that. Maybin is no more of a potential bust than any other rookie that recieves limited playing time. He could just as easily be a potential super star. So, maybe we give him some time to develop? Even with Schobel's possible retirement, a decent FA or draft pick and it could be lessened. Hardy, again, is just as much a potential Super star as he is a bust. He's gotten almost zero playing time; so who knows how he'll perform when actually given a chance. So, Owens leaves. Who cares? Reed may be a FA, but why can't he be re-signed? All the severe injuries (Wood, Butler, Mitchell, and McGee) should heal perfectly fine and the players be ready to excel next year. Wood is the only one I miht be concerned about, but all indications are that it was a clean break and he should recover fine. The team certainly needs upgrades at several positions (DE, LB, DT, OL). But, with a new GM/C won't that be their job to find those replacements? Is that any different than abotu 28 other teams in the league every offseason? Who's not looking to upgrade 3 or 4 positions on their team? Ralph has given every indication that he intends to hire a real GM and HC this offseason and completely revamp the FO, if needed. Let's see how that plays out. We could see the hirings of several individuals that overhaul our scouting department ans set this franchise up for years of continued success. Are my views overly optimisitic? No more than yours are overly pessimistic, IMO.

I think it was JP in Houston, 2007ish.

Thank you. We finally have a headcoach that doesn't tip his hand to the opponents. It's what every coach in the league does. Just like last week, there was talk of TO possibly not playing. Now you get, Fitzy may start. As small and insignificant of an advantage as it may be, Perry is at least trying to be a real head coach.

Good point.

Or.... you could teach them how to have a little patience and to be less greedy, grubby beasts that world does not revolve aound. just sayin...

You do realize that by drawing comparisons to guys in your Saturday, backyard lot football game is nullifying any point you may be attempting to make, yeah?

I usually get lots of Bills gear, but I told my family to layoff a litte. Not so much because I don't want it, but after so many years, the house is full of Bills stuff. My truck is full of Bills stuff. My drawers are full of Bills stuff. A year or two break won't diminish my Bills' arsenal one bit. Plus, I already got what I really wanted for Christmas... a new Head Coach.

All on Christmas morning... as as possible, after coffee is in the cup. I never quite understood the "one on Christmas Eve" idea. Christmas Eve is not the holiday. Do you let your kids open birthday presents the day before their birthday? It just doesn't make sense, unless you have family or friends over that won't be there for Christmas to see you open the presents... maybe.

And.... ... ..... we'll likely be behind by 4 touchdowns at the half and have a backup QB playing. This is getting scarey.

Yeah it would totally suck to have a QB that actually looks marginally competent. Here's to Brohm looking completely lost so we can all rest easy in our sucktitude.

I, for one, hope Schobel does not retire. He's a no nonsense player that gives 100% on every snap. He's played his entire career as a Bill and he's put up numbers better than any other Bills' DE, not named Bruce. For those that dislike his efforts for the Bills, you do know there's 31 other teams out there if you hate every player on the Bills' squad?

A little humility wouldn't hurt.

God I hope not. How many more completely embarassing primetime games do we have to endure?

I'm guessin he gets a paper cut opening Christmas presents and goes on IR on Saturday.

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