Dan

Whatever they want (minus a first round pick) plus Roscoe.

We could only be so lucky. Getter done.

At the very least, called out. But, how would any of us feel if a poster was regularly calling for your death because they don't like your posts? No one puts up with a poster saying things like that about other posters. But, for some reason, it's ok because Ralph isn't present? I'm sorry, but I don't like it. Dislike the guy, wish for him to sell the team, wish for him to retire from football, wish all sorts of things; but wish him or any person bodily harm or death... no. If this board was overrun with Ralph sucks he should die posts 10 years ago, I would have never stuck around. I've always thought of this place as having a better class of poster than the other Bills' boards. But, lately, I just don't know. I have no problem with dissention and idiocy - it makes the place interesting. But, there's a difference between idiocy and hate-filled rants.

I think that's something people aren't considering. The Bills are actually targeting the top prospects out there. They started with the top out of work guys - Gruden, Holmgren, Shanny, Cowher. Obviously, those guys are going to be selective. They have lots of options and money is no longer a priority. So, its not surprising to have them turn the job down (even though 2 considered it). You would think it would be an indication that the Bills want to win, but apparently not. Then they've gone to the top OC/DC that are on playoff teams. So, yeah, those guys have to be a little careful. But, more importantly, they're all on teams that are close to a SuperBowl. It's entirely possible that a young guy like Schotty would want to stick with the Jets a few more years, have a chance at a SB. However, an older guy like Frazier, who's window to become a HC is smaller, could be more willing to make the move. Again, though, talking to some of the top assistant coaches would on the surface appear to mean the Bills want to win. Apparently not. The surprise to me is JH in Stanford. That kinda came out of left field last night. Not only was this guy interviewed, with no one knowing anything about it, but he was offered the job and turned it down. All while no one knew anything about it. Maybe he turned it down because he sees his conference opening up with Carroll leaving, maybe he has a contract he can't get out of. I don't really know. But, again, the Bills, reportedly, go after one of the top college coaching prospects and again it's not seen as an indication that they want to win. In my estimation, everything they're doing this off season indicates that they want to win. But, based on what someone from 5, 10, 15 years ago said?? we all know they're not committed to winning. Or is it based on speculation and rumors from fired employees that did absolutely nothing to help the team win? I know... it's because they won't pay for players. I guess TO, Dockery, Walker, Mitchel were all scrubs that were paid pennies on the dollar. The Bills' problem is they've been paying for the wrong players, not that they're not paying for FAs. If a coach really wants more than 1-2 key FA signings a year - I don't want them here. One thing is certain, you can't build a winning team through free agency. Nix is right, pay to keep your own guys, build through the draft, and get a few good guys that can help through FA. Anyone that wants lots of big name FAs, I would argue, doesn't know how to win.

That's what gets me. I really think those posters should be banned. Seriously.

I thing several of you guys are getting a little overly melodramatic,

Smokescreen to make Cowher jealous.

Nah local TV. I can't get CBS on DirecTV here. Sucks.

Am I the only one with a choppy tv feed?

What would you have said if the Bills hired Dungy to coordinate the hire and he hired Frazier? Because that's exactly what they reported he wanted to do in Seattle. I don't know if Frazier is any good or not, but he seems to have alot of people thinking he'd be a pretty good HC.

Momma said knock him out. Dude got nailed!

First computer I ever worked on had a 20mb hard drive. We got grant money and decided to upgrade it, so we got a 120mb hard drive. It was unreal! Never would we use that much hard drive space. Never! I mean ever! People from other labs would come over, just to look at our computer. (I don't remember the price, but it probably cost about as much as an entire computer wouldl today.) Now I have a 1gig usb drive on my key chain. Unreal.

The league really needs to change that stupid rule. You literally touch the QBs head and you get a penalty. I can see if you lay into the guy or it's helmet to helmet, ok. But, this jumping up to block a pass and your hand comes down on the guys helmet is just horse .

So is Shockey. But it is strange to see guys play with emotion after what we've had for 4 years.

Coaches and players all around the league talk to each other. Word gets around. You don't think everyone knows how bad some of these guys are already?

I think you've just forgotten what it's like to watch a team that's actually fired up and playing like they care about winning.

Yes.

Thanks.

You don't by any chance have a link to Mort's report or any of these great rumors?

I'd completely agree with that. And I'll add: they'll say he was their #1 selection and they got just they guy they targeted all along. And, of course, he'll say he's excited to be here and looks forward to working with such a great group.

I think I read somewhere that a coach can't be hired from playoff teams till 1 week after they lose. Not sure, but I thought that's what I read somewhere.

So Mort and potential coaches throughout the league are basing their opinion about the Bills on something a guy that hasn't been in the organization for 4 years and left under strained circumstances said? Wow.

Because Trent's been such a rock?

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