Dan

Unfortunately, I think this is the last year Hyde, Poyer and Tre take the field for us.

This international crap has been unwanted by the fans and players since day one, and the league just keeps flipping us all off. If they want to be international… just go all in and put new franchises in these markets and let them see how that goes. I mean what could go wrong with a bunch of teams playing nfl style football throughout Europe? But stop shorting the US fans, and increasing injury risk to our players. It’s just flipping ridiculous.

That… yeah. And a whole lot of cheating and bending every rule in the book. Of course, having a few refs in your back pocket don’t hurt either. But yeah, just a great coach.

The only people that would say this are bandwagon fans that weren’t around for or too drunk to recall the decades of repeated house cleanings and all the mediocrity that brings.

We’re digging up 2 year old threads now? It’s gonna be a long 2 weeks.

And none more egregious than the non called horse collar illustrated just a few posts up. Its just unfathomable that a QB that is one of the faces of the NFL, could be rag dolled to the ground by his pads, his jersey nearly ripped off.. and the Ref literally feet away with one responsibility… to watch the QB misses that? ??? AND somehow looking directly at all that decides the QB commits the foul by not throwing a pass well enough to hit his receiver in the hands while getting tossed down. These are game changing calls and non calls that the refs are making. The fact that they are never punished and the league has not done more to eliminate such clear and blatant manipulation of the game can only mean one thing… the league is ok with refs influencing the outcome of the games to favor certain teams over others. If the league wanted to have any appearance of impartiality, they should fine Hochuli and suspend him pending a review of who’s paying him off. It’s just unacceptable to think he just didn’t see the horse collar or that he saw it but didn’t think it was what it so blatantly was. He’s either on the take or completely inept.

Apparently now there’s a 3 second rule or something according to posters here. What I don’t get is does that apply if you catch it and fall down? Like do you have to fall really slow to reach the required made up time? Bills got screwed. Think the league cares? Nope. They just been giving calls to the opposition for decades now.

How many games of the year, thriller, one for the record book type games have the Bills lost? Just add this to the pile of amazing games I’ll never wanna see or hear of again… because Buffalo is the team that lost.

To be fair… Josh is pretty good at scoring on the last drive of the game. The current team’s problem is we have no one on defense that can get the stop when they get the ball back with under 2mins. …and when they do force a fumble to seal the game…the refs just step in and say uhhh no.

I was gonna say play Line Backer. Because this defense needs some serious help. That’s the problem going forward. We’ve drafted primarily defense for years… and now they’re old and washed out. Time to draft more defensive players, while we rely on Josh to be the only playmaker on offense.

The Bills need to develop a breakaway jersey for Diggs. The Refs routinely let him get mugged like this with no call. But a jersey that just rips away once grabbed… 1. He could finish the route and make the catch. And 2. It would be blatantly obvious the DB had a handful of his jersey. Only problem… they would need a dozen or more jerseys for him every game. Somehow that was not a penalty. But the Bills DB got called for touching a guy on the arm on 3rd down extending an eventual scoring drive. Literally touching, in no way was his progress impeded or his jersey pulled. But that was a drive extending penalty. Diggs and Allen get there jerseys ripped off… result penalty on Buffalo. The refs rigged the game. The league office needs accountability.

Agreed. I think because it epitomized so many of this team’s failures and us fans’ torment. 1. The league clearly hates Buffalo or at least doesn’t care to call games fairly. There’s zero doubt the refs were biased against Buffalo in this game. I don’t have to point out all the bad calls and missed calls. The whole football viewing world saw it. But why are they so biased against us? One theory I have is it’s Bills Mafia’s fault. The league knows we’re loyal and will follow the team through thick and thin. So they have zero incentive to see the Bills win, and can blatantly referee the game to maximize betting profits and league narratives. As a fan base we should really boycott the league until they fire this officiating crew. 2. We all lived through the 13 second game. We all have seen what can be done with 13 seconds on the clock. We had a chance, with 20 seconds… and kneeled down. You can’t create legends and legendary endings when you give up. McD gave up and we were robbed at the chance to have our legendary moment. 3. A 59 yard FG in the driving rain. It reminded me of the Dallas MNF game years ago when they beat us on an improbable last second, long ass FG. Why do other kickers always make those kicks against us, but our guy can’t even make relatively routine ones? 4. When we need it most, we have no playmakers other than Josh. We watch amazing highlight reel plays against us every week and watch our team lack that same ability. We had a great play call after several runs, perfectly setting it up. Josh read the situation and makes a perfect pass. Cook runs right by the defender and is free and clear as the ball hits his hands… and he drops it. Not once, but twice, WRs run the wrong route and Josh throws a great pass with perfect timing, placement and anticipation in the end zone. And the ball hits the turf because the WRs turned the wrong way. The list could go on, but does it need to? The Bills lack focus. They lack playmakers that win games. Is it poor preparation or poor players? I don’t know but it’s on display time and time again. We watch other teams make the play to win the game, while our players.. drop the ball and we wonder why God hates us. 5. I woke up this morning with an image of Josh - dirty, soaking wet, jersey ripped. He looked tired and battered in the pouring rain. But it’s the way this team loses that is making us all so tired. We’ve seen it all. We’re battered, beaten, dirty and standing there - helpless - as the other team, coaches, fans get their legendary wins. I imagine he is tired. I know I’m tired of seeing this same ending play out over and over again. This is a hard loss to get over for a number of reasons. Mostly because, once again, we were at the precipice of greatness just to have the league and our coach screw us out of that moment.

I had Dolphins fans texting me asking why the league wants Buffalo to lose. That says all you need to hear. It’s not just Bills fans.. the football world knows we got screwed on multiple calls and should have won that game.

He caught the ball. Two feet down. And on the broadcast… but he didn’t make a 3rd move. So how many moves does it take to make a catch? Unless of course your a Bill.. then it’s a penalty against Buffalo for.. make up excuse.. it was a ***** officiated game.

Maybe? Gotta be a reason we keep getting screwed. Diggs should just wear a jersey that tears away... so when they hold. He just loses his jersey but isn't stopped exactly. And people are gonna talk about Josh’s interception

Just came here to say… Twice again.. Josh left the field with the lead only to watch the defense piss the game away. Is it time for McD to recognize that he needs an actual defensive coordinator? The Bills will never win anything as long as Roger Goodell is the cigarette smoking man’s doppelgänger. The league made sure the Bills would not win this game! The defense did their part to blow it… but the league made sure it would not be a Bills win. so… what did we do to perennially piss off the league officials? And how do we get a real DC in here?

Pretty much agree. The Eagles are the number 1 rush defense because of their D-line. They also generate a lot of pass rush. Find a way to run and give just an extra second is key. Conversely,our D-line needs to pressure Hurts while containing the edges. That and win the turnover battle. It’s just that simple.

I think just having 5ish designed runs by Josh per game is all it would take to open the offense up considerably. I don’t think that’s all we need to do however. They have to get creative with their routes and scheme receivers open. Dorsey has done almost none of that. And it shows. But with Josh a run threat a defender has to hesitate just a bit to watch him. And that, alone, made the predictable route formations easier to complete. Without a threat of Josh running, the defenses have been able play to our tendencies and jump routes far too often. You don’t need creativity on every play. Or trick end arounds on every drive. But you need some! You need just enough to make the defense think and hesitate. And why, for the love of all that is holy, can they not complete a proper pick play concept and get someone running free for a simple 5yd completion or a gd screen pass. These are two play concepts that the Bills just can not do. And every successful team can. If they add in the threat of Josh running, add in 1 pick play, and 2 screen passes… they could probably leave the rest of the offense as is and see dramatic improvement in every aspect.

This is exactly what’s wrong with this place lately and why it’s becoming less and less of a place to come and get Bills news and discussion. Too many people manufacture issues and make stuff up to prove some point they made up. Now we’re picking plays that are good. He ran the route he was supposed to. Josh makes an incredible throw. Gabe catches the ball and turns upfield for extra yards. …and that’s the reason you don’t like a player!? This thread is emblematic of the state of this franchise among the fan base (at least here). There is soooo very little actual discussion of the team here lately. Just people with axes to grind and using every instance possible to restate their disdain for everything in the organization.

Why does it seem like half the people here are hoping for a loss so they can enjoy their misery in full throat?

My thinking is the offense is highly predictable because of those option routes. There’s very little scheming guys open. Instead Dorsey relies on players making correct reads and adjusting routes on the fly. There’s a few problems if that is ..all.. the offense relies. 1. Defenses know what the offense is queuing in on, as well. So it’s really easy to bait them into certain routes and formations, and then jump the route and get interceptions. This, I suspect, is one of the reasons Josh has as many Ints as he does especially in the red zone. 2. Also, with so few formations and routes, the Bills Offense is just too easy for defenses. Hence, the better teams pretty much know exactly what is coming. I would suggest our defense has gotten similarly stale. The good teams and QBs know exactly who is blitzing and how to attack the man combinations. In short, McD and company have to mix things up… one way or another.

I’ve been thinking this since mid last season. There’s been 2 things that have kept Dorsey and the Status Quo going since then: 1. Josh. He’s such a dynamic athlete that he can make chicken salad out of chicken *****. Look at the play where the 2 receivers run into each other and fall down… Josh keeps the play alive long enough to let Kincaid get up and hit him for a first down. Great play design! ..not 2. Against the weaker, incompetent teams; they rack up the stats and points. This keeps them in the top 5 of all key offensive statistics. So when they self scout and say… what needs to change on offense… they look at the stats and say… nothing. Just need to execute. Blah blah. But as pointed out in this video, Dorsey is relying on perfection for the offense to succeed. Perfect passes, perfect reads, routes, blocks, perfect everything… and against the better teams; that doesn’t cut it. Hence we win more than we lose and run up the stats. Then get in the big games and fall flat against better players and coaches. They need to make a change. Now or at the end of the season… I’m not sure it matters.

The thing is.. call that tripping penalty. Don’t call the intentional grounding. 3 pts almost assured. call the facemask on Davis in the endzone.. ball on the 1. TD far more likely than a FG. Thats 7 extra points and the difference in the game. And that’s not counting all the other holds not called and any of the other plays that may have happened had they not cut Bills drives short. The league screwed us ..again.

In all seriousness… why watch the games if the Referees are so blatantly call the game in favor of one team. This game was pathetic. The Bills did enough to lose. But the Refs made sure it would never be close. This game reminded me of so many of our games against the Pats…. Everything they did was ignored… everything our boys thought about was called. f’in bull####

Really? So I guess scoring on every offensive drive in a playoff game doesn’t count? Stopping Lamar..in the playoffs? Shutting down and steamrolling a team that had just put up 70pts; yeah they just lucked into that. Rolling right through the Super Bowl champs on opening day… nothing? And that’s just me typing fast to board a plane. Honestly… it’s bad statements like yours that makes me wonder if people actually watch the games. Or does everyone just spew whatever thought that comes into their head with no care or concern for reality? You’re upset with how you feel the team is playing. But let’s not rewrite history just to validate your feelings.